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re: 2014/2015 Winter Transfer Thread

Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:58 pm to
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It's worth mentioning if there are different degrees of hopefully


and those different degrees have always factored into a player's valuation.

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ETA: I've also been watching too much Real Madrid over the past few years, so my idea of an appropriate transfer fee could just be fricked at this point.


yeah you guys make up quite a few of the top transfer fees paid. bale, cr7, modric, illa, pepe, coentrao, xabi, isco, etc.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:02 pm to
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he fits the system



What system? And he isn't a great defender right now. He's superb going forward which is why he's on the WC squad, but he isn't the defender Gibbs is. Shaw could be a great defender one day but his attacking instincts are so good right now that you just let him play and mask his defensive deficiencies by accounting for them in the formation.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:05 pm to
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What system?


The United style just look at our LB/RB's over the years
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7100 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:07 pm to
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a big fallacy in that logic is there is no sure thing,


keep in mind, our physios are not arsenal's physios.



Also, 30million is A TON for him. I'm not overly bothered by it though. By no means am I saying we aren't overpaying. I honestly DGAF at this point.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

and those different degrees have always factored into a player's valuation.


Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Who is the most expensive LB, anyway? Coentrao?

quote:

yeah you guys make up quite a few of the top transfer fees paid. bale, cr7, modric, illa, pepe, coentrao, xabi, isco, etc.


The Luke Shaw transfer would be Real Madrid-esque. "He exists, so we want him."
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:12 pm to
Right now he might not be the best LB for our team, but If we can get two solid CB (I know I will be crucified but Smalling and Evans are not world class CBs) then we can have attacking fullbacks. The problem is that Jones is decent at alot of places, but I don't think CB is his best.

Edit to say: After saying all that we need to buy him. We need to focus on stabalizing our back line, being it younger and better, before we move foward up the pitch.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:14 pm to
yeah, pretty sure it's coentrao. but benfica transfer fees are always stupid high. (because they know Real and Chelsea will always pay them )
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:16 pm to
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yeah, pretty sure it's coentrao. but benfica transfer fees are always stupid high. (because they know Real and Chelsea will always pay them )



dat pipeline
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22982 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Defenses wins championships

which was clearly Liverpools downfall


yeah, and like others pointed out, he isn't a particularly good defender now...
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22982 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:29 pm to
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he fits the system


what system would he not fit in? He's a fricking LB...
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:29 pm to
evra is a much more two way player. barca dealt with defensive issues after signing alba due to having two very heavily attacking wingbacks in their back four. would be interesting to see if the same would happen to ManU.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:32 pm to
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yeah, and like others pointed out, he isn't a particularly good defender now...



neither is anyone playing for Liverpool
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:33 pm to
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what system would he not fit in? He's a fricking LB...



He is perfect for the United style of play
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22982 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:34 pm to
So, whats your point? We shouldn't buy Shaw? OK...

And Flanno isn't a bad defender, though he can get caught out for pace at times..

edit: but I wouldn't argue that we need an upgrade in that position
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 3:36 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:36 pm to
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So, whats your point? We shouldn't buy Shaw? OK...



I was making jokes about Liverpool fricking relax
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22982 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:37 pm to
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He is perfect for the United style of play


You haven't even seen one match yet under LVG... though I don't have any doubts that he will indeed play with a LB..
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:38 pm to
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You haven't even seen one match yet under LVG.


Wut??

Ive seen him manager more than a few clubs. He was brought in b/c his philosophies are similar to SAF.

Just look how SAF used his LB/RB
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7100 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:39 pm to
I guess I don't understand what this convo is about.

We are overpaying for shaw so... We should feel bad?

Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:41 pm to
To be fair, Portugal is just one giant shop window for third party ownership
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:41 pm to
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We are overpaying for shaw so... We should feel bad?



Yes we are but like Ive said many times if hes is there for 12+ years its worth it.
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