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re: 2014/2015 Winter Transfer Thread
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:10 am to TFTC
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:10 am to TFTC
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One report this morning says ManU has ended their interest in Kroos (the guardian... yeah, I know)
sky and daily mail say is a done deal
esp since Kroos will not get a new contract with him wanting more
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 9:23 am
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:12 am to Friend of OBUDan
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and as for shaw, anytime you buy a player that is 22, 23 or below, you're expecting to get 5-10 years out of him. not sure why everyone is now using this to justify the outrageous figure for Shaw. it's outrageous, but they have the money so oh well. gotta disagree glass, i love gibbs and he's great when healthy, but he's too injury prone. and baines is too old. they're overpaying, but shaw is a safer buy than those two.
thats what I was saying 27 million for 10 years plus is a good investment.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:12 am to PTBob
Bayern has an offer on the table for Kroos. He can choose to accept it if he wants. They aren't going to break their bank for him.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:16 am to hendersonshands
Ter Stegen signed this morning with Barcelona.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:16 am to theOG
LINK
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Yaya Toure's agent has claimed a future role at Manchester City after he retires would convince the unsettled midfielder to stay at the club.
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"Zidane played then after that he started working for the club. Yaya needs the club in the future. We don't want any more pounds, not a longer contract, nothing like this, only really attention.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:20 am to theOG
I saw that interview on tv this morning before work, I was like wtf
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:20 am to PTBob
i don't know who is saying that. german based journalists have consistently said for months that bayern and kroos' agent have been negotiating but he wants more than they're offering currently.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:53 am to Friend of OBUDan
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pedro to pool would be interesting, but doesn't he have Sterling? confused why that says he thinks Pedro is the perfect counterpart to those two when they had a pretty dang good 3rd wheel this season would be so very much in the mold of this year's Liverpool to buy two offensive players before shoring up the defense.
would love it... pedro would be an incredible buy... provide very good depth on the front line and would allow him and sterling to play on the wing with Suarez and Studge through the middle, if one is hurt (Suarez - maybe.. Studge - inevitably).
BR is attack minded... its in his blood. Honestly, I don't care in what order the come in as long as some defensive reinforcements do, and I believe they will..
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:48 am to joey barton
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I don't even know where he found them in dollars unless he converted them himself
it was an NBC sports article, on rumors from the Daily Star. Thought i put link in. They put Dollars and Pound amounts in the article.
200mil pound war chest and 28-30mil pounds for Shaw
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This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:57 am to Friend of OBUDan
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and as for shaw, anytime you buy a player that is 22, 23 or below, you're expecting to get 5-10 years out of him. not sure why everyone is now using this to justify the outrageous figure for Shaw.
It's not like he's being bought purely on potential like 80% of players under 20. Young players worth half a shite are going to go for a value reflecting their longevity. It's crazy money, but it's safe-ish money, and at only 4.05 Bebes, it's probably not the worst money United has ever spent.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:00 pm to stlslick
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it was an NBC sports article, on rumors from the Daily Star. Thought i put link in. They put Dollars and Pound amounts in the article.
200mil pound war chest and 28-30mil pounds for Shaw
you link doesn't even fricking work
Stop mixing pounds and dollars in your post.
There is no 250 million plus war chest. Thats enough for fricking 12-15 new players.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Barcelona have unveiled new signing Marc Andre Ter Stegen at the Nou Camp this afternoon. The Germany international goalkeeper, 22, has moved from Borussia Monchengladbach to the Catalan giants for a fee of around £9.7million. Ter Stegen says the move is a "dream come true".
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:18 pm to joey barton
my point is merely to say don't try to add additional justification to your overpaying by saying he'll be around awhile at a good level, hopefully. that's factored into every transfer valuation by every team.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:22 pm to Friend of OBUDan
there's not a huge difference in paying 15 mil for an older LB and then 15 mil again in 5 years for another than 30 mil up front for a guy that can last 10 years imo
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:26 pm to PTBob
well yeah, if you can predict the future and he isn't a bust or gets injured...
I think he's a fine player and would love to have him, but in terms of FFP, its hard to justify that kinda cash on a non goal producing player... IMO
But you guys have more money to spend than us and I'm sure you have done your due diligence on the financial side of it..
I think he's a fine player and would love to have him, but in terms of FFP, its hard to justify that kinda cash on a non goal producing player... IMO
But you guys have more money to spend than us and I'm sure you have done your due diligence on the financial side of it..
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:29 pm to PTBob
again, all transfers operate this way. value comes from all these info points. a big fallacy in that logic is there is no sure thing, though shaw surely seems like he will be good for awhile. you just never know though.
ManU fans trying to act like they aren't overpaying for Shaw (in an attempt to distance themselves from Chelsea or Man City? idk) are kidding themselves. 30m pounds would be the highest fee ever for a LB. he's young and english and ManU have stupid money, so it is understandable. still, soton is getting a great deal (which, good for them. looks like they'll need the money to rebuild after losing shaw, lallana, and probz schneiderlin this summer, as well as their manager possibly).
ManU fans trying to act like they aren't overpaying for Shaw (in an attempt to distance themselves from Chelsea or Man City? idk) are kidding themselves. 30m pounds would be the highest fee ever for a LB. he's young and english and ManU have stupid money, so it is understandable. still, soton is getting a great deal (which, good for them. looks like they'll need the money to rebuild after losing shaw, lallana, and probz schneiderlin this summer, as well as their manager possibly).
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:30 pm to TFTC
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but in terms of FFP, its hard to justify that kinda cash on a non goal producing player... IMO
Defenses wins championships
which was clearly Liverpools downfall
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:44 pm to StraightCashHomey21
so you buy an attacking LB who isn't a particularly good defender at this point in his career
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:46 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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so you buy an attacking LB who isn't a particularly good defender at this point in his career
he fits the system
but our major need is central defenders
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:47 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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my point is merely to say don't try to add additional justification to your overpaying by saying he'll be around awhile at a good level, hopefully
It's worth mentioning if there are different degrees of hopefully. Saying that Luke Shaw could play as a left-back for Manchester United for 10-15 years is a good bit different than saying :insert other left-back prospect here: could play as a left-back for Manchester United for 10-15 years, and that's completely ignoring potential.
Sure there's uncertainty, sure it's a lot of money, but there is so much fricking money in the Premier League these days I'm not even sure what overpaying is anymore.
ETA: I've also been watching too much Real Madrid over the past few years, so my idea of an appropriate transfer fee could just be fricked at this point.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 2:53 pm
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