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re: 11/10 Matchday Thread

Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:56 am to
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:56 am to
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Why the hell didn't we let giroud take that


He's got that Spanish technical skill, that and Giroud striking the ball hasn't been great this season. But why the heck didn't Santi hit it? He's had some amazing shots this season.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:57 am to
That would have been the third straight away game where we gave up a goal in injury time.

This is a fun team - terrible defensively though.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:58 am to
Nah I'd say arteta before cazorla, but that was the perfect opportunity for giroud to be the hero, I mean he's obviously on form today and arteta wasnt
Posted by Early Cuyler
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:58 am to
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I'm pissed after watching this.

Our defending is still trash, and we failed ton keep a multi-goal lead again, and didn't get full points at home.




This

And frick Arteta....that was the worst game i've ever seen him play.


And yet AW lets him take the penalty...fricking idiot.


This season is going to test my fricking allegiance to AFC more than any other.

It's so fricking frustrating to watch them go 2-0 up b/c I knew that they don't have the grit to defend a lead.

:endrant:
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:59 am to
How often does that even come into play? From the training grounds you have your list/hierarchy of players preferred to take the kick.
Posted by timlan2057
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:01 am to
I don't like Mannone. He seems shaky as hell and hotheaded.
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:06 am to
We really need Gibbs back. Our defending has been shaky since he left, plus he's a big part of the offense. Szczesny even though he has his gaffs, he is more consistent than Mannone. One of our wingers has got to step up and start producing. It's good to see Giroud finally getting his feet under himself. Arsenal have the players to get good results, they just haven't played close to well enough lately. They are a very frustrating side to watch.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:11 am to
It wasn't like it was an awful penalty really.

I'm starting to think Everton could finish top 4. Not a fluke at this point, they're just one of the best teams. Completely overran Fulham at home last week, we were really lucky to get a point.

Right now they just look better than Arsenal or Spurs.
Posted by thenry712
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:17 am to
I had no problem with Arteta taking the penalty, because he's the designated taker. Schwarzer just made a really read and save.

Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:33 am to
I never said it was a poor kick. I've seen plenty of that caliber go in. Just a good guess from the keeper.

If Arsenal actually go out and buy 1 key offensive player, like a goalscorer from the Wing or Striker(both would be better) I think they pass up Everton without too much difficulty. I really want them to shell out top dollar for a world class finisher. I think the defensive woes will sort themselves out not completely but we will see much less of them once Gibbs returns.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:39 am to
Everton won't. Their squad is too shallow. Unfortunate too because they have a good side.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:40 am to
I agree Arteta would normally be my first choice, but his confidence was clearly shaken by giving up that penalty, and he had too much pressure to try to make up for it.

Whereas Giroud while normally just average at PK's was clearly on form and full of confidence today.

Also it wasn't a bad take, but it certainly wasn't a good one either, at least 5-6 feet away from the post.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:48 am to
Everton's problem is their depth, maybe they can bring in a player or two in January if they're still doing well. I still think they have a realistic shot though, they always seem to finish the season well.

I'm just not blown away by their competition for fourth. I think you could make a case that Spurs have depth issues as well. They have two strikers really. They love playing with two out and out wingers but their third true winger is Andros Townsend.

That's why Dempsey was such a good buy for them, even though he hasn't exactly been playing great. He could play out wide, or up top if need be. Deeper than Everton but they are shallow in certain places.

If Giroud continues to get better I guess Arsenal would be the favorite. They need to rest Cazorla from time to time though.
This post was edited on 11/10/12 at 11:49 am
Posted by thenry712
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 11:58 am to
Yeah Cazorla looks tired already; not quite as lively and a nuisance for opposing defenses. That's a fairly sizable concern, considering recent purchases like Gervinho and Chamakh both had strong starts and faded. Cazorla is twice the player of either of those two.


ETA: It's not like Arsenal has much depth either. As a whole, the Premier League is down. The only quality teams are the Manchester sides, and Chelsea.

This post was edited on 11/10/12 at 12:02 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:08 pm to
I think Tottenham and Arsenal are still both more realistic than Everton. We're only 1/4 of the way through the season, Everton's results will begin to slip a little bit. We already saw what happened when they lost Fellaini for just 2 or 3 weeks.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:11 pm to
The guy from ZonalMarking has talked a lot about how the lack of a Winter break has affected Spanish players in their first year in England. It's hard to quantify how important that is, but Silva did seem to fade a bit last year.

Everton need to avoid an injury to Baines - that would completely change how they play. And they need to keep Jelavic and Fellaini healthy. Other than that I think they could absorb some injuries. Mirallas was a very good signing.

I think they have a realistic shot.

Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:16 pm to
Chris Smalling just kind of got beasted
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:22 pm to
Benteke just made him look like a little bitch. Beautiful first time shot by Weimann gave the keeper no chance. Let's hope we can withstand the pressure second half, this is not Mcleishs team we aren't gonna just sit back and try to wait it out.
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:32 pm to
Bring on the Mexican. Concrete Ron is not scared.
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:35 pm to
Hernandez to score via telekinesis
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