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re: *** UCL Match Day September 17, 2013 ***

Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:10 am to
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:10 am to
I don't think that anyone has told Moyes that he is a United player and not Short Round from Indiana Jones
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:12 am to
You would think from a market standpoint that United would want their only Asian to play at least a little bit, but Woodward is still counting his pennies for a Cesc bid.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:18 am to


Looks like he trained. Or maybe it's a ghost.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 11:20 am
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:18 am to
It would help if they had any amount of speed to test Real Madrid's back line with (which I don't think they really have).

Now is probably the time to catch Real Madrid, though. A number of players are out, returning from injury, or just arriving, and Ancelotti hasn't had enough time to figure out how to effectively deploy them. If he rolls out a lightweight midfield like he did against Villarreal (true 4-3-3: Illarrmendi, Modric, Isco), I could see Galatasaray giving them some trouble since it is in Istanbul.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 11:21 am to
quote:

You would think from a market standpoint that United would want their only Asian to play at least a little bit, but Woodward is still counting his pennies for a Cesc bid.


Korea was pretty pissed with us about Park. You don't want to piss off Japan.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Leverkusen's midfield should beat up on United's center mids


As usual, Carrick is going to be pivotal for ManU.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Now is the time to catch Real Madrid


Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:31 pm to
How do you like "the other Real" in todays contest?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37019 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

You would think from a market standpoint that United would want their only Asian to play at least a little bit, but Woodward is still counting his pennies for a Cesc bid.


I don't see how one has to do to with the other. Getting Cesc is pretty damn unlikely. What was likely was that Darren Dein was using United to get a new deal for his client. Cesc is going to have a spectacular year in Martino's system. Xavi is being phased out, albeit slowly, and Cesc is becoming the go to playmaker.

Kagawa is a better player than Ashley Young and Nani, and is more creative than Valencia. If Moyes freezes Kagawa out for no real reason, then he's a fricking moron. Ashely Young, outside of some sweet goals against Arsenal in that 8-2 game, is really, truly overrated, just like his former Aston Villa compatriot, James Milner. I don't see how he is getting games at all.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:36 pm to
Their detroying of OL doesn´t tell me much, as I think OL may be bad.

Bah, I don´t know. They obviously didn´t suffer a tremendous dropoff by losing Illarra, but that is Shaktar (who have been very, very solid as of late in this tourney).

It´s in San Sebastián, so I´m thinking they shouldn´t do worse than a draw.


Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:40 pm to
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Ashely Young, outside of some sweet goals against Arsenal in that 8-2 game, is really, truly overrated, just like his former Aston Villa compatriot, James Milner. I don't see how he is getting games at all.


Would be especially hypocritical and stupid given all of the anti-diving comments from Moyes this week to start Young over Kagawa if both are healthy...
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:42 pm to
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I don't see what one has to do with the other.

It was a sarcastic post.

Moyes isn't playing Kagawa.
Kagawa is United's big connection to their giant Asian market.
Management should want Moyes to play Kagawa.
Management won't do this because they're mostly clueless right now...multiple lowball bids for Cesc were examples I used.

The post had no sense of seriousness or tactical knowledge on my part.

ETA: I, too, do not like Young.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12157 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:45 pm to
Neuer
Rafinha Dante Boateng Alaba
Lahm
Robben muller Kroos Ribery
Mandzukic
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:46 pm to
Well the Man City game is on Plus if anyone gets that.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:47 pm to
What is the DTV channels btw?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37019 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

The post had no sense of seriousness or tactical knowledge on my part.



Ah. I came in late. It is actually annoying me that Kagawa isn't getting chances. He's a pretty great player who I fear will be relegated wide left in his time at United, where he will be slightly disappointing, and will be shipped out somewhere else, probably Dortmund, where he will play awesome.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:53 pm to
Today marks the return of Alvaro Arbeloa, left back
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:53 pm to
I thought Schweini was coming back?
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12157 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 1:15 pm to
He's on the bench, if we need him he'll play 30 or so minutes. Götze and Ø just resumed individual training again yesterday or the day before so they aren't in the squad.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 1:18 pm to
FOBUD just informed me that Kagawa and Fellaini were starting for United tonight. Huzzah!
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