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Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:52 am to ZIGG
Why should that matter?
I couldn't name a Presbertian or a Lutheran Church I visited.
Cuomo should have went nuclear and said mosques may have a place in our society, but if they are used as a front for illegal or terrorist activities they do not belong in New York City.
I couldn't name a Presbertian or a Lutheran Church I visited.
Cuomo should have went nuclear and said mosques may have a place in our society, but if they are used as a front for illegal or terrorist activities they do not belong in New York City.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:56 am to IvoryBillMatt
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No police reports. No videos.
You fricking idiot muslim.
The twin towers just fricking went down. Everyone swarmed the bridge to help so they shut it down.
You could see the smoke from New Jersey and Connecticut.
No one had a pocket camera or gave a fck, if they did they were focused on the towers.
There was a huge hole in the Pentagon.
There was a missing plane over Pennsylvania and pilots who were going to suicide into it to stop it.
Why would someone have bothered with a police report, its not today.
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uncorroborated testimony of small groups of Muslims gathering in New Jersey to celebrate
Do you know what uncorroborated means?
Multiple people reporting it means its corroborated.
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I didn't remember ANY reporting AT THE TIME about American Muslims celebrating 9/11.
I do, days later about the Paterson incident. Step 1 was phone everyone we knew make sure they were safe, after that was talk about what happened.
Where the hell were you at the time?
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"At the end of the day, the only thing we can go on are facts. There is no media record. There is no police record. There is nothing."
Yea what were people going to do file a police report that a bunch of Arab men in Paterson were standing around a barbershop door cheering?
It was a Tuesday morning, every radio and TV was turned to coverage of 911.
You pushed the antisemitic dancing Israelis idea, that was uncorroborated, it was one Karen who thought they had something to do with it.
The FBI found it totally uncorroborated.
No one thought that the Arabs in Paterson were involved in it.
People just thought they were hateful jerks.
Which was not a crime pre 911.
We didnt even know who did it at that moment.
The facts are there are multiple eye witnesses.
Thats corroborated information.
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I thought that was odd, because I paid close attention to media at the time. I had family in NYC who had a close connection to Windows on the World, the restaurant at the top of the North Tower
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In addition, about three dozen Muslim employees of Windows on the World, the restaurant at the top of the north tower, said their prayers in a stairwell between the 106th and 107th floors. They would put a tablecloth on the landing in the stairwell, and they used flattened cardboard boxes as prayer mats. During the holy month of Ramadan, the Muslims brought favorite foods from home, and after the daylight fast, they ate the iftar meal together in the cafeteria for employees.
Where were you at the time?
Dude you weren't that interested if you think that would have popped up.
The last survivor was pulled 27 hour later, the president spoke, we were trying to figure out who did it.
Don't pretend that you want 2025 cell phone video proof for 2001.
You want video proof of something that was not a crime during one of the most major events in American history.
In a time where handheld video was rare.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:50 am to Narax
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You fricking idiot muslim.
You start off with a lie. I'm a Bible believing Christian. Christ is truth, so tolerance of lies undermines Christianity.
No doubt many Muslims celebrated 9/11 as an attack on Israel's biggest supporter.
I was responding to Riverside's lie that he saw Muslims in New Jersey and New York celebrating ON 9/11. Admittedly, I am assuming that Riverside meant he saw them ON TV. Just like President Trump was lying when he said he saw "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating ON TV and ON 9/11, it undercuts credibility.
That's one of the few downsides to Trump’s leadership. He makes things up to prove his point. Rather than just let Trump be Trump, some supporters feel like they have to defend those lies as if they were true. It distorts reality...just like you calling me a Muslim because I pointed out something that is irrefutably true...unless you want to show the TV reports from 9/11 SHOWING thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City.
The downside of Trump's making things up is far outweighed by the many upsides of his presidency. He is the best president of my lifetime.
ETA: I didn't know that Riverside was lying initially. I just commemted on what I remembered from the reports on 9/11...and expected someone to show the TV reports from 9/11 that in fact featured Muslims in NJ and NY celebrating. No one found any.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:05 am to IvoryBillMatt
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You start off with a lie. I'm a Bible believing Christian. Christ is truth, so tolerance of lies undermines Christianity.
You are trying to mislead people by pushing antisemitic lies about Israelis and then declaring multiple eye witnesses wrong just because you want desperately to defend Muslims.
There is no desire for truth in your words, therefore your own words condemn you.
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No doubt many Muslims celebrated 9/11 as an attack on Israel's biggest supporter.
On 9/11 in America?
We have video of ones celebrating in East Jerusalem.
But you refuse first hand eye witnesses who are police officers that it happened in NJ.
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I was responding to Riverside's lie that he saw Muslims in New Jersey and New York celebrating ON 9/11. Admittedly, I am assuming that Riverside meant he saw them ON TV. Just like President Trump was lying when he said he saw "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating ON TV and ON 9/11, it undercuts credibility.
No you responded to my article (which you actually quoted from) where police officers who were first hand eye witnesses stated it, and you dismissed them because you wanted to hide the truth of what happened.
This is another lie from you, you are trying to mislead people about what you were responding to.
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some supporters feel like they have to defend those lies as if they were true.
This is literally you, you are lying to defend this idea that we don't have evidence of Muslims in America celebrating on 911.
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just like you calling me a Muslim because I pointed out something that is irrefutably true
Considering your non stop lying, you act exactly like a Muslim, Muslims will lie to mislead, they will pretend to be Christian.
I challenge you right here right now, blaspheme Muhammad the Islamic Prophet and Allah.
Will you now admit that there is a multitude of evidence that Muslims were celebrating on Sept 11 2001.
It happened. We have witnesses.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 11:17 am
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:08 am to ZIGG
Heaven help us when a Cuomo is legitimately considered to be the "good guy" in a political election.
PS - What is the date of this election?
PS - What is the date of this election?
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:21 am to Narax
Can you not read? I was only commenting on whether or not there were reports ON 9/11 about Muslims celebrating in NY and NJ.
NO ONE IS DENYING THAT SOME MUSLIMS CELEBRATED ON 9/11
Riverside's comment on "dancing" just triggered the only recollection I had which was of the "dancing Israelis" in the NY metro area. I said the evidence was inconclusive about whether or not they had foreknowledge.
My father was the son of an actual Zionist who moved the family to the Palestinian Mandate in the 1930s. I don't have an antisemitic bone in my body.
You don't seem interested in the evidence, but here's the best reporting on the topic of what was on TV on 9/11 regarding thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City (spoiler alert: it didn't happen).
NO ONE IS DENYING THAT SOME MUSLIMS CELEBRATED ON 9/11
Riverside's comment on "dancing" just triggered the only recollection I had which was of the "dancing Israelis" in the NY metro area. I said the evidence was inconclusive about whether or not they had foreknowledge.
My father was the son of an actual Zionist who moved the family to the Palestinian Mandate in the 1930s. I don't have an antisemitic bone in my body.
You don't seem interested in the evidence, but here's the best reporting on the topic of what was on TV on 9/11 regarding thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City (spoiler alert: it didn't happen).
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:33 am to Narax
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No you responded to my article (which you actually quoted from) where police officers who were first hand eye witnesses stated it, and you dismissed them because you wanted to hide the truth of what happened.
This is another lie from you, you are trying to mislead people about what you were responding to.
Are you psychotic? I thanked you for posting the article from 2015. I'm probably one of the few who read it.
To see if you're psychotic, answer this simple question: did Trump SEE "thousands and thousands" of people in Jersey City ON 9/11 celebrating?
I urge you to actually watch the video from FOX with the same reporter. His conclusion: yes, there were reports of small numbers of Muslims in Jersey City who celebrated on 9/11; no, there weren't "thousands upon thousands in Jersey City" celebrating on 9/11; no, there was no TV coverage of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:50 am to Narax
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Considering your non stop lying, you act exactly like a Muslim, Muslims will lie to mislead, they will pretend to be Christian.
I challenge you right here right now, blaspheme Muhammad the Islamic Prophet and Allah.
I accept all of the Bible as true (my occupation relies on the literal truth of Genesis), so from John 14:6, where Jesus declares, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" I am bound to renounce all false religions and prophets such as Islam and Muhammad, which I do now...and always.
I was simply pointing out that it was a lie to say that TV showed NY/NJ Muslims celebrating ON 9/11. I never said that some Muslims (including in the NY metro area) didn't celebrate 9/11.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:01 pm to Narax
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On 9/11 in America?
We have video of ones celebrating in East Jerusalem.
But you refuse first hand eye witnesses who are police officers that it happened in NJ.
I'm sorry to clutter the board by responding to your insanity. My point was that neither Donald Trump nor Riverside could have SEEN Muslims in NJ/NY celebrating on 9/11 because there were no TV reports SHOWING it.
The police officer reports certainly seem credible, but do you agree with me they don't support the assertion that "thousands and thousands" were celebrating in Jersey City ON 9/11?
Will you answer the question: did Donald Trump SEE "thousands upon thousands" of people in Jersey City celebrating ON 9/11 as he asserts in this video?
ETA: I understand and respect how much I annoy many posters here, so I will drop this after your response. Cheers
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:02 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Can you not read? I was only commenting on whether or not there were reports ON 9/11 about Muslims celebrating in NY and NJ.
Again lies and misdirection, I explained in detail on why there would not be a media report an Sept 11 2001 from 8:46 AM Eastern to midnight West Coast.
Bush spoke to the nation at 8:30 PM ET, He knew who was likely to have done it at that time, but it wasn't shared with the nation, the CIA didn't even have Bin Ladin identified internally till 9:30pm ET
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The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I've directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.
Now you are pretending that you always meant "Oh I wanted TV reports on the exact date"
It's fundamentally dishonest.
There were 911 calls ON 911, but I guess as they don't count as Media you want to disregard.
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Collectively, the gatherings amounted to dozens of people at the two locations, the witnesses said. Callers also flooded the 911 system with accounts of jubilant Muslims on a rooftop at a third location, three police officers said, but a reporter was unable to find witnesses there 14 years later.
We were too busy as Americans, we had people trapped in the tower still.
Where were you? You act like this should have been a media report ON 9/11
You said:
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The article proves that there were NOT reports of Muslims in mosques and on rooftops in NJ and NY celebrating on 9/11.
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uncorroborated testimony of small groups of Muslims gathering in New Jersey to celebrate.
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there is no record of Muslim celebrations in Jersey City.
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There is no media record. There is no police record. There is nothing."
That's all to perpetrate the gaslighting of the left that it didn't happen. 911 calls on Sept 11th 2001 seem to not count as Police Records.
You pushed the gaslighting and didn't bother to quote the actual witnesses
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NO ONE IS DENYING THAT SOME MUSLIMS CELEBRATED ON 9/11
In America, you admit that Muslims were celebrating on 9/11? In Jersey City, witnesses by Dozens of people?
Yes or no, speak clearly, you fought me tooth and nail on this, can you now admit that Muslims were celebrating in NJ on 911 and that there are multiple credible eye witnesses.
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My father was the son of an actual Zionist who moved the family to the Palestinian Mandate in the 1930s. I don't have an antisemitic bone in my body.
Strange... so you are Jewish Israeli (and "Bible believing Christian") and you think "dancing Israelis" is corroborated?
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thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City (spoiler alert: it didn't happen).
But you do admit that there were many Muslims who were witnessed celebrating across NJ and NY?
I am more than happy to agree that there weren't over 1,999 Muslims within the Jersey City Limits who were witnesses celebrating.
But there were well over 2,000 Muslims in Jersey City, and many were celebrating.
AGAIN
I challenge you right here right now, blaspheme Muhammad the Islamic Prophet and Allah.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:03 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I accept all of the Bible as true (my occupation relies on the literal truth of Genesis), so from John 14:6, where Jesus declares, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" I am bound to renounce all false religions and prophets such as Islam and Muhammad, which I do now...and always.
I was simply pointing out that it was a lie to say that TV showed NY/NJ Muslims celebrating ON 9/11. I never said that some Muslims (including in the NY metro area) didn't celebrate 9/11.
So you refuse to Blaspheme Muhammad the Islamic Prophet and Allah.
You deny this for the second time, will you deny it for a 3rd time?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:06 pm to ZIGG
Thats fricking crazy. I dont go to other peoples church. Why would I go to a Mosque? I'm not a muslem.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:09 pm to Narax
Muhammad is a false prophet. Islam is a false religion. I don't know what else you want me to say.
I wasn't defending ANYTHING other than a (relatively unimportant) truth. Trump and Riverside were lying when they said they saw celebrations ON 9/11 in Jersey City.
Sorry to the Board for getting dragged back into this, but questioning my religion is serious.
I wasn't defending ANYTHING other than a (relatively unimportant) truth. Trump and Riverside were lying when they said they saw celebrations ON 9/11 in Jersey City.
Sorry to the Board for getting dragged back into this, but questioning my religion is serious.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:17 pm to ZIGG
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Zohran laughs and mocks Cuomo because he can't name a mosque in NYC
I don't even like Cuomo, but I can't imagine considering this to be a negative for Cuomo.
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:19 pm to Narax
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So you refuse to Blaspheme Muhammad the Islamic Prophet and Allah.
You deny this for the second time, will you deny it for a 3rd time?
Lol. I don't know HOW to blaspheme Muhammad and Allah, other than to say I reject Islam as a false religion. If you need me to say the words, yes I blaspheme Muhammad and Allah.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:23 pm to KCT
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PS - What is the date of this election?
November 4th
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Muhammad is a false prophet. Islam is a false religion. I don't know what else you want me to say.
You could say Muhammad is a gay pedophile servant of Satan and Allah is a demonic pig.
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I wasn't defending ANYTHING other than a (relatively unimportant) truth. Trump and Riverside were lying when they said they saw celebrations ON 9/11 in Jersey City.
No, you quoted democratic politicians trying to gaslight the public.
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I wasn't defending ANYTHING other than a (relatively unimportant) truth. Trump and Riverside were lying when they said they saw celebrations ON 9/11 in Jersey City.
You specifically quoted my article with witnesses, but you only quoted the parts where democrats were claiming there was NO evidence.
You didn't quote all the police witnesses of 911 calls, of police being sent to break up rooftop parties, of multiple Islamic celebrations all over Jersey City as the towers fell.
Why did you only quote the gaslighting.
There were Thousands of Muslims there, many were celebrating.
There were multiple police witnesses.
That's gaslighting, just like you are doing now to change your story.
There is NOTHING honest about your behavior.
Even now you are pretending that you are being reasonable when you back and pushed a lie.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:29 pm to Narax
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Strange... so you are Jewish Israeli (and "Bible believing Christian") and you think "dancing Israelis" is corroborated?
Sorry Board, disregard if tedious. Narax, your assumptions are so off base, I feel like answering anything with you just leads to more stupid, baseless observations...nonetheless....
My father's American family moved back to the US in 1937. My father was a WWII combat veteran. My mother was Protestant as am I. I'm neither Israeli nor Jewish.
The "Dancing Israelis" story was reported by multiple outlets. I never saw any challenge to it. I don't know if there was ANY significance to the story. It was the "Dancing" part that I think triggered Riverside's faulty memory.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:45 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Narax, your assumptions are so off base
You do understand how it seems when you backed left wing gaslighting about how Muslims are peaceful and weren't celebrating when the towers went down.
Some of us know people that died in 9/11 and US forces who were deployed to Afghanistan.
The left has pushed for years that Afghanistan should never have happened and that it was only "a couple bad apples".
One of the guys I went to DC with on 9/11 was USMC reserve, within days he was mobilized, he wound up serving multiple tours of Afghanistan and Iraq.
My uncle used to work in the North Tower in the 1990s, he worked with several of the people killed there.
People like Zohran absolutely are pushing the idea that his Islamic focus is not a threat for NYC.
It is in every way, his parents are anti-Israel decolonize activists.
These are literally the people who cheered when it came down.
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