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re: You ever feel bad that Germany doesn't have any sort of World War 2 Wehrmacht memorials?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:46 am to _Hurricane_
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:46 am to _Hurricane_
I don't care about that has been country enough to care whether or not they have statues of their army.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:47 am to NC_Tigah
Thanks for the post NC_Tigah. I was actually about to try and upload pictures from a few of the ones I visited while in Germany.
It's sad though that some people didn't know these existed. They are exactly the types of monuments we should have for the Confederate Soldiers in this country. They honor the Soldiers, not the ideology.
It's sad though that some people didn't know these existed. They are exactly the types of monuments we should have for the Confederate Soldiers in this country. They honor the Soldiers, not the ideology.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:53 am to _Hurricane_
Almost every village in Germany has a small memorial to their war dead from the world wars. They're very respectful of their dead.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:25 am to _Hurricane_
There's actually an international controversy between Poland and Russia because Poland wants to remove statues and memorials in their country that were erected to the Red Army. Russia was pretty pissed that the Poles wanted to remove them. To the point that they were considering political action against the Poles if they followed through.
Russia itself is actually an interesting case study for statues that were erected to a historical movement that is broadly viewed, at least internationally, to have been criminal and abhorrent. I mean shite, they still have a tomb to Lenin for Christ's sake. The Bolsheviks kickstarted the murderous authoritarian party of the 20th Century that only ratcheted up with the Stalinist regime. I've never been to Russia but from what I've gathered, the days of the USSR are still looked to with great fondness by a sizable portion of the population. Of course it's complicated by the fact that they would naturally seek to memorialize their national struggle against Germany in WWII yet at the same time, they were a state with a comparable degree of criminality and inhumanity during that same period that sought to conquer, enslave, and murder pitilessly those who didn't totally acquiesce to the regime and it's political aims.
Russia itself is actually an interesting case study for statues that were erected to a historical movement that is broadly viewed, at least internationally, to have been criminal and abhorrent. I mean shite, they still have a tomb to Lenin for Christ's sake. The Bolsheviks kickstarted the murderous authoritarian party of the 20th Century that only ratcheted up with the Stalinist regime. I've never been to Russia but from what I've gathered, the days of the USSR are still looked to with great fondness by a sizable portion of the population. Of course it's complicated by the fact that they would naturally seek to memorialize their national struggle against Germany in WWII yet at the same time, they were a state with a comparable degree of criminality and inhumanity during that same period that sought to conquer, enslave, and murder pitilessly those who didn't totally acquiesce to the regime and it's political aims.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:28 am to _Hurricane_
But they do. I have seen them.
For example, near Kaiserslautern, there is a small memorial to the 36th Infantry Division. It's tucked away just outside of town in a pleasant and lightly wooded meadow. No swastikas on the memorial, of course. The 36th was composed of men from the area.
For example, near Kaiserslautern, there is a small memorial to the 36th Infantry Division. It's tucked away just outside of town in a pleasant and lightly wooded meadow. No swastikas on the memorial, of course. The 36th was composed of men from the area.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:42 am to northshorebamaman
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There are some. I think the rule covers strictly nazi stuff.
There are a few, I am normally in Bavaria, in the country and there are a few scattered around there. That said there is no shortage of war relics or reminders in Germany.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:16 am to _Hurricane_
It's bullshite and a false equivalency to compare putting up statues honoring confederate leaders and soldiers to putting up statues in Germany honoring Hitler and Nazis.
After the Civil war, it was decided in order to unite the country again, we would allow the South to honor their heritage including their leaders like Gen. Lee and the soldiers who fought for the South even if those statues weren't erected until after the Jim Crow laws were outlawed.
Germany didn't have to unite it's people after WWII. The German people as a whole had to accept guilt for what their country and leaders did in WWII in their name.
That's why there are no statues honoring Hitler and Nazis in Germany.
After the Civil war, it was decided in order to unite the country again, we would allow the South to honor their heritage including their leaders like Gen. Lee and the soldiers who fought for the South even if those statues weren't erected until after the Jim Crow laws were outlawed.
Germany didn't have to unite it's people after WWII. The German people as a whole had to accept guilt for what their country and leaders did in WWII in their name.
That's why there are no statues honoring Hitler and Nazis in Germany.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 10:25 am
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