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re: You are Exempt from committing Sedition if You Have

Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:19 am to
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9129 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:19 am to
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There is an internal threat to the Constitution, right now


Please list the NVM
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293804 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:21 am to
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I think going after him with the UCMJ is pointless and stupid but there's no need to whitewash what he/she said.



They successfully trolled Trump. Its easy, and they know what buttons to push.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38271 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:31 am to
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This is no different than a former service member committing a crime and being court martialed.


Except it’s completely different because there was no crime committed

Because following the constitution is… legal.

Which is why in all that rambling, you failed to answer the original question.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56793 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:34 am to
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Except it’s completely different because there was no crime committed


Code of conduct doesn't apply to just criminal matters. It's up to the interpretation of Hegseth. You don't like it? Win an election.

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Which is why in all that rambling, you failed to answer the original question.


I did answer the question. I even provided reasoning and links for you to verify from the UCMJ. i even stated why i stated it was not specifically sedition.

You want a yes or no, but don't want the nuance. That's understandable, that is how simple people think.

No, he did not "incite rebellion", but "yes" he is held to the UCMJ which makes him subject to the chain of command which under this POTUS, is Trump. So while they can't be tried for treason based on the comment, they can be court martialed.

If you think they are so righteous, then why didn't they list the specific orders in that video?
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56793 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:38 am to
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NawlinsTiger9


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Retired military personnel must remember that they’re never fully disconnected from the reach of the UCMJ. Your retirement doesn’t exempt you from military laws and the potential consequences of violating them. Staying informed and vigilant about your actions can save you from unexpected legal issues and ensure your transition to civilian life remains secure. Whether you’re at home or abroad, your behavior could fall under military scrutiny. It’s crucial to navigate post-service life with an awareness that your military connection persists and with it, the responsibility to uphold the standards of the UCMJ.


Military law is not the same as civil/criminal law. Even our learned lawyer, Slow, knows that.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38271 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:36 am to
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You want a yes or no, but don't want the nuance. That's understandable, that is how simple people think.


Big talk for a guy who spent his morning getting pecker-slapped by some pretty basic reading comprehension

But no, despite your lust for lawfare, you can’t nuance this into being a crime or a “conduct violation” or anything of the sort. It’s perfectly in bounds to tell people to follow the constitution.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56793 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:38 am to
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But no, despite your lust for lawfare, you can’t nuance this into being a crime or a “conduct violation” or anything of the sort. It’s perfectly in bounds to tell people to follow the constitution.


Again, you can think that all you want. Ultimately, all retired service members are subject to the UCMJ, and the Commander in Chief and Secretary of War will decide how they are handled. Again, you don't like it, win an election.
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