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re: Will Obama kill Joe over the Malia Obama pics
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:37 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:37 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Hackers don't steal physical credit cards. They only care about the numbers, not the card itself.
Agreed. My larger point is that the "hacking" story actually lines up with the Mac Shop grand jury subpoena timeline, retroactively.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:38 pm to AURaptor
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The laptop exists, & the FBI has it.
A laptop may exist, the FBI may have a laptop. We know that a) the FBI is not likely to release information that might impact an election before the election (see Hillary email scandal) and b) the Executive controls the FBI and c) the FBI is said to be corrupt.
Therefore, handing off a laptop to the FBI at this point means that the campaign can make any claim about the contents of the laptop and the FBI is not likely to make any claim as to the veracity. This means that Giuliani controls and owns this narrative. Giuliani has shown himself to be a crass politician who is willing to mislead on limited evidence and even to produce false evidence (as there are no repercussions for his actions to date). Then it follows that one should be skeptical of the claims.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:40 pm to blackinthesaddle
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handing off a laptop to the FBI at this point
They didn't just "hand off a laptop" recently. FBI has had it since late last year. Try to keep up.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:41 pm to Jorts R Us
One last time as I do not see you as an adversary. My post that started this referred to down votes across this board, not this specific thread. Your response included something about this particular thread. My post indicted "site" purposefully to avoid confusion.
Granted I have a bias against Esquire, and I do not think I am alone in this.
Apologies for any confusion I may have caused.
Granted I have a bias against Esquire, and I do not think I am alone in this.
Apologies for any confusion I may have caused.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:43 pm to Beessnax
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Show us the facts and let us decide.
You have already taken at face value that there are facts. Perhaps the reason that this is being "censored" is that the validity of the claims cannot be yet be determined? Political smears happen, the media does not have to let itself be the vehicle for this type of information dissemination. If the Administration has what it claims it has, then arrests should have been made. Instead what you have is Giuliani insinuating that he has child pornography that he's showing off to multiple people who all just happen to be part of the right-wing propaganda network before he has the decency to contact the authorities?
If it smells like a turd, it's because they're shi**ing all over common decency, sir.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:45 pm to Honkus
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They didn't just "hand off a laptop" recently. FBI has had it since late last year. Try to keep up.
Yeah, okay. And they are releasing part and parcel of an "active" investigation too, right? Through the media. That no one trusts. Until it's useful.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:46 pm to blackinthesaddle
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is not upon the reviewer of the evidence but on the party making the extraordinary claim.
They have his lap top, his signature dropping off the lap top, personal email corroborated by someone who is in those emails, and actual pictures.
What fricking more proof do you want?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:47 pm to IslandBuckeye
I picked a pointless fight. Apologies for that.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:55 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
They have a laptop (maybe, no proof). Video of him dropping off the laptop, video of him in the neighborhood of the store during the timeframe in question, cell phone pings from the towers in the area, the expanded data from the emails so we can see from whom and to whom the email comes from and through what channels, photo metadata means nothing as it can be changed easily, one of the principals to verify, one of the "prostitutes" to verify and for her to be scrutinized for any ties to the campaign, there's a host of things that you should see before making the leap to belief on this.
If it's true, it'll be true even after scrutiny.
If it's true, it'll be true even after scrutiny.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:56 pm to blackinthesaddle
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Through the media. That no one trusts. Until it's useful.
MSM and social media has ignored/buried the story. Keep your head in the sand tho.. probably just another russia deep fake
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:19 pm to Honkus
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Keep your head in the sand tho.. probably just another russia deep fake
Right now it looks more like an icloud account hack than a physical laptop abandonment, but that kind of account intrusion would be a federal crime, so it's best to make up a tale about a legally blind repair shop owner just happening to get the Vice President's son's laptop.
See, making up a narrative is easy. Proving one is the real tricky part.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:36 pm to blackinthesaddle
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the media does not have to let itself be the vehicle for this type of information dissemination
I agree with you, but shouldn't that work both ways? Should they seemingly attack one candidate while shielding the other, because that's what I see happening.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:59 pm to upgrayedd
8 pages and nobody has mentioned that the Hunter girl appears to have a back tattoo?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:46 pm to Mikes My Tiger
quote:nothing in the photo suggests that. it might be her. it might not. there's no conclusive evidence. but it sure looks like her. similar body, birthmark, skin color, etc. oh and she's a coke hound and the 2 of them had plenty of access to each other
I'm saying that is not Malia Obama
quote:it doesn't matter how it got there or who took it there. the data has been confirmed to be legit and it shows that the bidens are corrupt as hell
I find it hard to believe that someone who has all that sensitive info would be stupid enough to take it in to a random computer repair man
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:49 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:what is this supposed to mean? they somehow MADE hunter do crack things and joe sell out the country? i don't understand what you're getting at.
The Trump campaign and his proxy Rudi Giuliani are really disgusting human beings for this garbage story
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:52 pm to Beessnax
quote:uh, no it's not. the information has been forensically determined to be accurate. the fbi wouldn't be investigating if it weren't. they've had the data for a year. they could have squelched this in a few seconds. not to mention that it's been verified by independent sources as well
It's up to the reader to determine the validity of the information
quote:yep. hence the move to strip away their protections
many people are preventing people from making their own determination by censoring this
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:53 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:rudy is not making a "claim." he is passing along info that has been verified to be accurate the msm is suppressing
The burden of proof is not upon the reviewer of the evidence but on the party making the extraordinary claim
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:56 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:no they can't. the laptop hd has been copied at least 5 times. if rudy were making false claims about the data, it would be EASILY refuted by others who also have copies. and btw, NO ONE has refuted the info - not even the perps
the campaign can make any claim about the contents
quote:you don't understand this issue AT ALL
Then it follows that one should be skeptical of the claims
Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:58 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:total lie. you apparently know zero about digital forensics.
photo metadata means nothing as it can be changed easily
quote:and everything you listed has happened. you just haven't caught up apparently
there's a host of things that you should see before making the leap to belief on this
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