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re: Wikileaks schools NPR, beats NPR like a rented mule

Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:35 pm to
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Because it appears Crowdstrike's investigation and therefore conclusions are highly flawed.


The CrowdStrike reports on this that have been made public are very limited. From what I understand they have released all of the info that they were authorized to release by their client. But the public CrowdStrike analysis is a small fraction of all publicly available analysis. ThreatConnect, Secureworks, FireEye, Fidelis and others have gone well beyond the info included in the CrowdStrike reports. But obviously none of these firms have anything near the capability of the NSA. And they all conclude the same thing.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:39 pm to
By their client... Who prevented the FBI from reviewing their server. Seems legit.

Fact remains that all those other firms can only go on what Crowdstrike says it found.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31768 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:51 pm to
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Fact remains that all those other firms can only go on what Crowdstrike says it found.


Not true. You might be surprised how much information about this is in the public domain. Some have reviewed Crowdstrike's work but others have their done their own work. Multiple firms have been tracking these two APTs for many years. They have been attributed to the Russians well before the DNC intrusions.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:38 am to
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You might be surprised how much information about this is in the public domain.


I think a lot of people just don't care.

They see an article on one of these garbage sites and they run with it. Damn anything else, they read that article and that's that.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:00 am to
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They see an article on one of these garbage sites and they run with it. Damn anything else, they read that article and that's that.
They don't need facts or expertise. Just enough like-minded idiots yelling "nuh uh" and "'your' wrong." At least the zero hedge guy brought something to the table. I mean it was garbage that I actually don't regret not seeing earlier, but it was something.

I guess we'll have to figure out some novel way to convince them that Russia and Wikileaks collectively don't have the best interest of the American people at heart. How good are you at drawing pictures?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:15 am to
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They don't need facts or expertise. Just enough like-minded idiots yelling "nuh uh" and "'your' wrong." At least the zero hedge guy brought something to the table. I mean it was garbage that I actually don't regret not seeing earlier, but it was something.


He actually did back away from the original point I was making, so I'll give him some credit on that. It took forever, but at least it happened.

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I guess we'll have to figure out some novel way to convince them that Russia and Wikileaks collectively don't have the best interest of the American people at heart. How good are you at drawing pictures?


I've had to deal with the government often in recent years. I'm solid if we're using a whiteboard.
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