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re: Why is India not a StarTrek utopia if they have millions of the worlds most brilliant engi

Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:51 am to
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It’s that they actually get educated in subjects that help them succeed. Not only that they are far less lazy than most American kids, I’m not sure how anyone can debate that.


There is an unwarranted fetish for the American worker on this site. If American workers werent lazy AF, we wouldnt need to import workers.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:01 am to
We live in a Corporatocracy. Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Corporations run the world. The person in the White House isn't going to change that.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:09 am to
A billion of them bathe in cow shite.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:24 am to
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My team has American-raised/educated Indians (all local) and they kick arse.

And eventually, if not already, they'll want the h1b abuse to stop too. As it'll start to affect them or their future children negatively. Just like the American Latinos that want mass deportation of illegals.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:26 am to
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There is an unwarranted fetish for the American worker on this site. If American workers werent lazy AF, we wouldnt need to import workers.

Better than an unwarranted fetish for mass importation of the 3rd world.

Let's improve the state of our American workers instead of constantly crapping on them and putting up more barriers. Instead of the lazy easy out mentality of importation.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10919 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:28 am to
I briefly dated an Indian. She told me all the smart ones are already here in the United States and the ones who are still in India are low iq and dumb.

Also, how they come here and succeed is say 3 brothers come here (legally or illegally) they all live in the same house/apartment and split the rent. They pool their money together and either outright buy or get a favorable govt loan for a gas station/Dunkin’ donut/Dairy Queen/motel etc. They buy the first one only employ family then they buy brother #2 one. Then brother #3 gets one. Then they start over and brother #1 gets his second business of choice and they keep going until they all have 4 or 5. This enables all of them to then make enough money to buy a house in cash and everything else never having to get a loan for anything or pay one penny in interest.

‘White’ people won’t do this. They rarely will pool resources together and cram 16 people into a 2 bedroom apartment and help each other buy businesses etc. If you are willing to sacrifice those first 2 or 3 years it’s a brilliant way to become very wealthy and Indians have perfected it which is why they dominate hotel/motels, gas stations etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:41 am to
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Better than an unwarranted fetish for mass importation of the 3rd world.


You're not forced to have either. Jobs are there if Americans want to work, but they dont.

We just went through a massive expansion since Covid where anyone with a pulse could gain decent employment. Many decided to "quiet quit" and sit at home and live off parents.

I dont care if these people fail, its on them.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 6:43 am
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:47 am to
Those people aren't going away, so find ways to fix it instead of the lazy way out. A way that will only continue to drag things down.

People aren't concerned with the skimming off the top best of the best from other nations, as much as, the wide net being thrown and dumped them over here. The people we bring here need to be helping the locals be better not replacing them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:48 am to
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, so find ways to fix it instead of the lazy way out


Good luck with that. If they didnt find great employment in 2021-2022, its not going to happen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:53 am to
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We live in a Corporatocracy. Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Corporations run the world. The person in the White House isn't going to change that.


The corporatizing of this country was the worst thing that could happen. We've protected big industry but failed in producing entrepreneurs.

We are a nation of cubicle workers who cant do anything outside of their certifications.

We used to push small business, now we push people into cubicles.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5739 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:54 am to
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I dont care if these people fail, its on them

I get it you don't care about unfettered immigration, for whatever reason, which is your prerogative. I prefer we find ways to fix this issue instead of giving up on it. To each their own.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5739 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:55 am to
I don't disagree with that. Just disagree with how to fix it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:56 am to
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I get it you don't care about unfettered immigration,


I do.

You can have unfettered immigration if you dont have welfare. If you have welfare you cant have open borders.

But I understand reality. Birth rates are dropping quickly and people dont want to work.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:57 am to
Stop propping up industry with govt. Thats how you fix it.

Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5739 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:57 am to
Not saying they have to find great employment, but we can find ways to change things positively for them. And importing people is just countering that effort.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5739 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:58 am to
Then stop using govt to import workers, so it can organically fix itself.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:58 am to
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And importing people is just countering that effort.


I disagree. Probably a third or more of native born Americans are worthless. You cant force them to become productive.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295481 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:59 am to
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Then stop using govt to import workers,


Then you'll have businesses relocating to Mexico, Vietnam and CHina.

We are creating jobs just to create jobs, most are worthless. We need to focus on high value employment.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18672 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 7:00 am to
India now has the 5th largest economy in the world.

While the current administration, and many on this thread have denounced them, watch Trump pivot hard towards Modi, and he better, its the only ally we have in that part of the world save Japan.

And we are back building many military bases in the Philippines and no doubt paying billions in kickbacks to do it. Anything for the MIC. We should be spending it on sat technology versus antiquated naval bases, but the MIC couldnt hide the money as well.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5739 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 7:02 am to
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I do.

You can have unfettered immigration if you dont have welfare. If you have welfare you cant have open borders.

But I understand reality. Birth rates are dropping quickly and people dont want to work.

Your only solution is to import our way out of the problem instead of trying to fix the problem. It'll be hard but what you are saying doesn't support your concern for unfettered immigration. Since you don't care about fixing that problem/abuse, because its your fix to the native issue. Your approach destroys traditional America instead of fixes it.
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