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re: Why haven't all the "Dreamers" applied and gotten citizenship?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:45 pm to Jimmy2shoes
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:45 pm to Jimmy2shoes
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If they are so valuable to our workforce and it will be devastating if they leave why not take the steps to stay here legally? They had the time and capability.
They can't. You have to be a legal resident for 5 years.
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:22 pm to alphaandomega
quote:Even the ones who were brought in as children?
The ones who remain (and do not respect our laws) should be removed (deported) and NEVER allowed back in. Ever. They should lose the ability to ever join this country if they tried to cheat their way in in the first place.
Get outta here, that's absurd.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:34 pm to ewdij
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The common misconception that you and many others share is that anyone can just go to the bank and get a million dollars just like that. In most instances the first step of amassing a million dollars is getting a job. In order to get a job you have to have either skills and education or a willingness to work hard doing unskilled work. The additional requirement is you either need to obey the law, pay your taxes and stay out of trouble sufficient to keep doing this job. Most Americans can't satisfy this requirement.
You can say this about anything. They could apply. They could wait in line. They could bring something to the table.
But it's easier to wait for the inevitable amnesty to come. The only problem is - once the amnesty comes, a new wave will start with millions more flooding in to start their clock for the next round of amnesty.
Rinse, repeat until we're done as a separately identifiable sovereign nation. Just Northish Mexico.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:38 pm to shel311
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Even the ones who were brought in as children?
Yes.
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Get outta here, that's absurd.
It's the least absurd thing imaginable.
It's bad enough we reward atrocious behavior of sneaking pregnant women across the border so they can drop anchor here and within 10 or 15 years, they've brought a dozen or more "family" members in to be with the child and other relatives.
Now, we're going to reward them by putting their children at all sorts of risk (estimates vary, but many, many of these children are sexually abused during this trip) and we don't even object - endorse it, thus continuing this flow of vulnerable children from now until the end of time?
That's absurd - monstrously cruel to the children themselves (and future children), plus a slap in the face to the millions of "suckers" who do stupid things like "obey the law" - "apply for residency BEFORE entering the country" etc.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:50 am to mindbreaker
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You do realize these are people who were brought over as children right?
If someone was a drug dealer (criminal) and with those proceeds purchased a house and then they get arrested and convicted so you think the dealers children should get to live in the house that was purchased with illegal money? Or would the children be taken by CPS if no adults in the family could\would take them? And the house sold and the state collect the funds?
It is the same thing. Quite often people suffer the consequences of other peoples actions. It may not be the childrens fault but it does not mean they get a free ride.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:00 pm to alphaandomega
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If someone was a drug dealer (criminal) and with those proceeds purchased a house and then they get arrested and convicted so you think the dealers children should get to live in the house that was purchased with illegal money? Or would the children be taken by CPS if no adults in the family could\would take them? And the house sold and the state collect the funds?
Yes because screw Civil asset forfeiture for drugs.
Secondly in your analogy the are sent to CPS a government entity paid for by us.
For the analogy to be the correct we seize the house then tell the kids to G.T.F.O. and we don't give a crap what happens to you.
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