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Why hasn't Mueller Indict Russians Over the DNC Hacking
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:06 pm
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Now that Robert Mueller, the Russiagate special counsel, has indicted 13 Russian actors—including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, the “troll farm” that used social media to help elect Donald Trump, as well as Yevgeny Prigozhin, a key Russian oligarch and friend of Vladimir Putin—for meddling in the 2016 US presidential election, could his next act be to indict Russians involved in the hacking attack against the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta?
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In other words, for more than a year now, and probably going back much longer, the US intelligence community—including the FBI, and therefore the investigators in the Office of the Special Counsel, too—has probably known who inside the GRU, Russia’s military-intelligence agency, and the SVR, its foreign-intelligence service, was responsible for the two bears, for the DNC and Podesta hacks, and presumably for the release of the stolen e-mails to WikiLeaks and other outlets in 2016.
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:07 pm to Jbird
Mortgage fraud investigation taking up most of his time.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:11 pm to Erin Go Bragh
quote:Pretty much going off on a witch hunt.
Mortgage fraud investigation taking up most of his time.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:30 pm to Jbird
This is a good piece. Never figured you for a Nation reader. I suspect the answer to your question is that the hacking is more material to more Trump campaign figures under investigation (e.g. Papadopalous having been offered connections to the Kremlin for emails obtained through this hacking, etc.) and Mueller may not want to tip his hand. 
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:31 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Interesting spin, considering different assets within Russia were doing the dirty deeds, why indict one but not the other? Tipping his hand to who Hillary?
This is a good piece. Never figured you for a Nation reader. I suspect the answer to your question is that the hacking is more material to more Trump campaign figures under investigation (e.g. Papadopalous having been offered connections to the Kremlin for emails obtained through this hacking, etc.) and Mueller may not want to tip his hand.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:32 pm to TigerDoc
It will never get old.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:33 pm to BBONDS25
You're getting better at this, Bonds.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:39 pm to Jbird
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Tipping his hand to who Hillary?
Watch yourself. You're getting Bonds's heart aflutter.
The campaign has said that Papadop was working alone and without approval or direction from campaign supervisors but we know from his plea that he reported his work up the chain. The dirt that DJTJ, Kushner, and Manafort sought at the Trump tower meeting were also the fruit of this hacking. Mueller still hasn't talked to two out of three of those (as far as we know). I think we will see Russian indictments related to hacking eventually, though.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:41 pm to TigerDoc
quote:I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
I think we will see Russian indictments related to hacking eventually, though.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:42 pm to Jbird
Oh, I'd say the chances are good. AIVD has visuals on the hackers back to 2014.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:46 pm to TigerDoc
quote:I doubt Honest bob and his merry band of Dem donors are going to dabble in the DNC side of this in any way shape or form.
Oh, I'd say the chances are good
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:47 pm to Jbird
The proggies won't touch this one.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:47 pm to Jbird
Ah, sounds like you've got a theory. Let's hear it.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:59 pm to TigerDoc
Not really a theory. Just paying attention to the modus operandi. If the democrats are accusing the republicans of doing something nefarious...it is because they have done it themselves.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:00 pm to bamarep
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The proggies won't touch this one.
just add yet to the title and you are going in the right direction.
Only Mueller and his team know the game plan. Why would he want to telegraph his plans? He wants the element of surprise I assume.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:02 pm to TigerDoc
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Ah, sounds like you've got a theory. Let's hear it.
It's simple. The 13 Russians were indicted for bank fraud and wire fraud. If they were charged with DNC hacking, Mueller would have to say exactly what they hacked. Which would include that pesky DNC server. The same server the DNC won't allow to be examined by anyone on planet earth including Meuller
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:13 pm to the_watcher
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Which would include that pesky DNC server. The same server the DNC won't allow to be examined by anyone on planet earth including Meuller
This isn't true. Crowdstrike examined the DNC Server.
Also, Podesta was phished... that's illegal. So that's the other crime.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:16 pm to BBONDS25
What Democratic allegations do you mean, Bonds? It's the IC that's pinned the hacking on the Russians. The agencies have been consistent on this.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:19 pm to tigerinDC09
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This isn't true. Crowdstrike examined the DNC Server.
There was a major security incident attributed to a foreign national government but no Mr. FBI you can't examine our server. We asked crowdstrike to do it and they said we were hacked. Just trust us.
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Also, Podesta was phished... that's illegal. So that's the other crime.
Cool. Who was indicted for that? Care to link it? Thanks in advance can't wait to read about it
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:19 pm to TigerDoc
Collusion with Russia. It is the Dems who engage in that type of activity. The DNC did with the Ukraine...Hillary and Obama did with Russia. The MO is to tell everyone the republicans did it....Dems are guilty Doc. Sorry. I've been trying to tell you this for months.
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