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Why do conservatives advocate for private clubs choosing their own membership

Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:04 pm
Such as a golf club not allowing female membership, yet howl about “free speech” when a private company exercises their freedom of association in determining who they want or don’t want on their platform?
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted by 2014Tigers
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:05 pm to
I'm a conservative and I agree with this statement, although it does bug me. But in this instance, a private company can do what they want. It's like a restaurant in this instance, they have a right to serve or to not serve whomever they want.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:06 pm to
Thank you for being consistent. There are a lot of intellectually honest conservatives out there
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:07 pm to
Why do liberals want to force a Christian to bake a cake when there were numerous other bakeries available?

Your outrage seems quite selective
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:08 pm to
Conservatives advocate for private individuals to make their own decisions and be responsible for themselves. Conservatives do not believe in forcing a private "club" in to action.
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:08 pm to
is this private company using resources that were built by the US Government?

are they pretending to be a neutral platform while acting like a super pac for Democrats and progressives?

just wanna make sure before I answer
Posted by LintLicker
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2017
563 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:09 pm to
I agree that they should be allowed to do what they choose with their company. However the difference is liberals and progressives would NEVER allow a company to only hire conservatives or a private club that advocates for white groups or men.

It’s the double standard that we’re fighting against.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Why do liberals want to force a Christian to bake a cake


If you believe in the concept of protected classes it’s a consistent position.

There’s also a difference between refusing sale of a generic cake to a gay couple vs forcing the bakery to make a cake specific to that gay wedding.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98858 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:09 pm to
Private is private, period.

Google and Facebook want to censor, more power to them (unless they are a legal monopoly). Their shareholders or competitors can bring them to heel otherwise.

Any private business should be allowed to "discriminate" at their peril.
Posted by pennypacker3
Charleston
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:09 pm to
Why can’t I pick my friends? That’s what this is all about...
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:10 pm to
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However the difference is liberals and progressives would NEVER allow a company to only hire conservatives or a private club that advocates for white groups or men.


What do you mean never allow?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

There’s also a difference between refusing sale of a generic cake to a gay couple vs forcing the bakery to make a cake specific to that gay wedding


Colorado and Oregon disagree.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10054 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Such as a golf club not allowing female membership, yet howl about “free speech” when a private company exercises their freedom of association in determining who they want or don’t want on their platform?


I understand what you’re saying but most are not calling for the government to do something about it. They’re just pointing out the political bias by those companies and are either bitching or choosing not to use the companies.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

is this private company using resources that were built by the US Government?



Not sure and I’m not privy to the contracts signed in those instances. But I think if a stadium is built with public funds then there should be a cap on ticket prices so in this case I would say you’ve got much more of an argument.

quote:

are they pretending to be a neutral platform while acting like a super pac for Democrats and progressives?


Is there anything illegal about this?
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:12 pm to
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but most are not calling for the government to do something about it.


When you invoke the “free speech” argument there’s an implicit connotation about legality for most.
Posted by LintLicker
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2017
563 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

There’s also a difference between refusing sale of a generic cake to a gay couple vs forcing the bakery to make a cake specific to that gay wedding.


There’s absolutely no difference here. Both involve another persons labor and talents to create.

If a person chooses not to give their labor or efforts to another person, they should be 100% allowed to or not to.
Posted by NCAAFootballGenius
Member since Nov 2006
323 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:13 pm to
If MasterCard, Visa, and PayPal ban you, you cannot receive payments.

If Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter ban you, you cannot join the public discourse.

It’s not a golf club, you douche.

BTW, are you for repealing civil rights laws and returning to free association. Most conservatives would gladly take that and let you have Twitter.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15007 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:14 pm to
I ain't buying it guy. You folks on the left are asking for considerations that you would never give.

Typical for y'all and it's not going to fly. Not with me anyway
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
84873 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:


There’s absolutely no difference here. Both involve another persons labor and talents to create.


Well okay I guess that’s just my opinion.

Either way this is more about how you feel about protected classes. I see both sides of that argument.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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84873 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:14 pm to
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You folks on the left are asking for considerations that you would never give


Wrong
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