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re: Which Of Our Neocon Brethren Believe A Failed Iranian State Secures Freedom For Iranians?

Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:46 pm to
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If Iran becomes a failed state, it is the fault of Iran’s regime not Trump. They chose to arm dozens of terrorist groups and kill thousands of their own people not to mention their obsession with nuclear enrichment

Not to mention missile strike almost every neighbor...

Its like saying Hitler was better than Germany becoming a failed state in the 1930s.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:49 pm to
I'd take a failed state over the current one. Honestly.

No nukes.
No ballistic missiles.
No sponsorship of terrorism in the middle east.

It is a very low bar for me to be happy with the outcome of this operation.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:50 pm to
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Does the leaving the middle ages theocracy in place secure their freedom?



Picking winners and losers amongst these ancient sectarian death cults certainly doesn’t secure our nation’s freedom. That actually is the point. All the more reason to extract ourselves from the sand pit of vipers once and forever.



This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 8:51 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Since many Trump fanboys now seem giddy that Trump 2.0 has apparently morphed into a neocon restoration project,


I had a feeling but stopped reading here when it was confirmed your post would be a douche bag TDS sore pussy rant.

Pathetic.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:58 pm to
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TLDR but your OP presumes that Iran will become a failed state, which isn’t set in stone and not even likely IMO.



History suggests otherwise. The United States is very good at decapitating hostile regimes and blowing things up. Yet the United States has a very poor record in controlling what follows next.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:07 pm to
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Yet the United States has a very poor record in controlling what follows next.


That's why the approach for Venezuela and Iran are different.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:15 pm to
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That's why the approach for Venezuela and Iran are different.


Iran ain’t Venezuela.


Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:19 pm to
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And there has to be boots on the ground for regime change


Not USA boots. Iranian boots. Citizens wearing boots. While we provide air support.
Posted by dickkellog
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:19 pm to
you should probably just stick to running parts at your NAPA store, i here oreilly's hiring!
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:23 pm to
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Pathetic.


What truly is pathetic is seeing GOPe devotes attempt to frame MAGA opposition to yet another Middle Eastern War as the mere ravings of leftist operatives. By doing so, they only are damaging their own credibility.



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This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:24 pm to
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I think times have changed a bit


Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:26 pm to
You'd think LSU fans of all people would understand wanting to fire the coach after he burns your program to the ground. Especially with a better coach standing right there who knew all along how disastrous this would be.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:28 pm to
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quote:
That's why the approach for Venezuela and Iran are different.


Iran ain’t Venezuela.


Sure.

And neither are Iraq or Afghanistan.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:30 pm to
I think you need to read my post again. We are in agreement. It’s the Neo libs who are disingenuously pushing for US boots on the ground by stating regime change is the only successful measure to this operation

The left needs a US body count to use against Trump and for acquiring power

They loved their Iraq and Afghanistan daily body count touted by the MSM

They loved their US Covid body count when Trump was in office touted by the MSM

When Biden took office and had a larger Covid body count than Trump they dismissed it as “ well yeah but Biden is trying”


This operation is thus far too successful for the left. They need failure which they won’t get without a body count. The only way to get a body count is to advocate that regime change is the only successful measure of this operation
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 9:36 pm
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1832 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:33 pm to
I feel great about whats going on.

I know that women being beaten for showing their hair is evil.

I know that 30,000 people being killed for protesting is evil.

I know that a country that is trying to build a nuke to murder neighboring states is evil.

So go frick yourself. My conscience is clear and I fully support our efforts in Iran.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:34 pm to
I believe Vance wholeheartedly believed that and still does.

You’re preemptively melting a bit over things that haven’t happened. The comparisons really aren’t apple to apple.

If Israel forces an escalation and we do end up with an extended occupation, I’ll be right there with you calling out Trump and the administration. But for now, let it play out before you declare it another ME failure.
Posted by AndrewAnglin
Member since Dec 2025
132 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:39 pm to
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They chose to arm dozens of terrorist groups and kill thousands of their own people not to mention their obsession with nuclear enrichment


Name one half dozen please? At least they signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty unlike the zionist entity who sucks from the titty of the great American Christian empire.


Acknowledge Palestine and remigration of Eastern European Jewry so the levant can be at at peace.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:46 pm to
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I know that women being beaten for showing their hair is evil.



If this is the justification for the war, when do we start the bombing campaigns on Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf Kingdoms?





quote:

So go frick yourself. My conscience is clear and I fully support our efforts in Iran.


You think anyone in our nation’s wholly corrupted national security apparatus gives one rat’s arse about the Iranian people? We got a live one here!




This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:57 pm to
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You’re preemptively melting a bit over things that haven’t happened. The comparisons really aren’t apple to apple.



Pointing out the history of the United State’s repeated failed interventionist policies in the Middle East is not a melt. It is simply a straight forward analysis of the documented historical record.

Which actually underscores my larger point. The unforeseen consequences of these regime change operations often take years or even decades to manifest.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:59 pm to
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At least they signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty


If you don’t realize you could wipe your arse with what they thought of that treaty you’re an idiot

All your other Zionist blah blah blah just reveals you for exactly who you are
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