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What Would Biden/Dems Do Different Than Trump In Handling Chinavirus

Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:58 am
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:58 am
I've asked this question in over 20 different threads and STILL HAVE NOT received even one response. So, I guess I'll try again.

I keep reading/hearing that Trump has completely mishandled the virus and that is one of the big reasons he will lose in November.

Would someone...anyone who honestly believes this PLEASE explain to me anything that Biden/Dems would have done differently than Trump that would truly have helped the country handle the virus better.

Does ANYONE honestly think that, if Biden were currently President, this country would be in a better situation. Seriously?

I look forward to once again having this question completely ignored by those that bitch about Trump's handling of the virus. Gripe, gripe, gripe with ZERO solutions.
Posted by RBTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
7687 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:02 am to
If Biden or Hilliary were President the numbers would likely be counted differently like they were in 09' for SARS. Instead of t he PIC (Pneumonia; Influenza; Covid) death numbers over 140,000 now with #Orange Man Bad...they might only 25,000

The Media would cover for them in kid gloves.
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:04 am to
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Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:05 am to
Faucci would have told everyone to be careful, do safe distancing and everything else remains normal.
They would not have needed to shut down everything because OMB would not be prez.
Economy must be wrecked to the point OMB won't be re-elected no matter how many people die from virus.
Also, they don't want people to take HCQ so more deaths can occur. In their mind more deaths = OMB won't be re-elected.

People who are FOR killing unborn children have no problem with people dying so their agenda can be implemented. Their agenda is greater to them than any life. No life matters to them.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:07 am to
One thing we know for certain is that Biden WOULD NOT have shut down air travel from China in late January like President Trump did. We know this for a fact because Uncle Joe slammed Trump for making that call and called it a racist action.

Same w/regards to restricting air travel from Europe. But since Europe is still thought of as Honkey Headquarters, Joey couldn't play the race card on that.

Biden would've almost certainly 1) Deferred to Fauci much moreso than Trump has, 2) Cooperated with the WHO much moreso than Trump has, and 3) Deferred to the CDC every step along the way.

All of these moves would've been mistakes, imo.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:20 am to
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I look forward to once again having this question completely ignored by those that bitch about Trump's handling of the virus. Gripe, gripe, gripe with ZERO solutions.

I have been critical of Trump's handling of Coronavirus. I think he shite the COVID bed.

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Does ANYONE honestly think that, if Biden were currently President, this country would be in a better situation. Seriously?

I don't understand why you think someone who thinks Trump f'd up big time on Coronavirus needs to believe the Dementia patient would have done anything better. That makes no sense.
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I keep reading/hearing that Trump has completely mishandled the virus and that is one of the big reasons he will lose in November.

First, I don't argue Trump loses this November.

But his chances of winning took a big hit with his handling of COVID. And you need only think back to January to realize this - when Trump was a lock for November with an economy screaming along and Dems clowning themselves trying to figure out how to land a punch. The minute he bought into the hysteria, his insurmountable advantages went poof.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34729 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:27 am to
It’s not what they would do it’s what the media wouldn’t do. The media would down play the virus the entire time and tell us just to go about our lives and that would be that


No death tracker no mass panic. It would just be treated as a new flu. We also wouldn’t have this mass testing like we do now to find every single case possible
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 1:28 am
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:29 am to
1. Biden would've done a much better job of mandating wearing a mask. It's taken Trump 4 months to wear one in public and to say wearing a mask is important. One just have to look at some of East Asian Countries like Singapore, South Korea, and Japan to see how wearing masks have done for them (hint a lot lot better).
2. Biden would've been much more proacitve in identifying and isolating cases. Trump has done a very poor job in isolating and identifying who was infected. Though this is only based on how he and Obama did with Ebola. Trump has done a very poor job with identifying who has Covid. Even Today people are often waiting up to 3 weeks to know if they have covid or not.
3. Hopefully, there be enough PPE for all the medical personal out there. I know there was a shortage of PPE left over from Obama but the Obama administration did warn Trump about it and Trump did have 3 years to replenish supplies and didn't.
4. Biden wouldn't have wasted time on stupid drugs like Hydroxychloraquine. This drug didn't work and just wasted doctor's time.

this isn't to say that Biden wouldn't have made these errors or others. But Trump has been awful. I just wonder what might've been if we had a competent leader like New Zealand, South Korea, or Germany.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:34 am to
Not dismantle the pandemic response that was in place when he took office. Not undermine health experts by saying the pandemic was a hoax. Not undermine the world health organization and attempt to defund the agency . Follow the advice and senior health offices and scientists and not politicize the pandemic. Probably the most dangerous thing the president did was ignore the pandemic at global level when preparations could have been made, then downplaying the virus for months and undermining independent health experts.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:36 am to
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I don't understand why you think someone who thinks Trump f'd up big time on Coronavirus needs to believe the Dementia patient would have done anything better. That makes no sense.

Goddamn you are one stupid mother fricker. Apparently reading comprehension is a skill you do not possess.

I can explain it to you, but I cannot comprehend it for you.

I just explained in the OP that I have read/heard it from many sources. When people say they are going to vote for Biden because of how Trump mishandled the virus, then WTF am I to think?

To respond to your last paragraph, why would anyone vote for Biden if they don't think he would handle running the country better? You appear to be one of them. What is your brilliant explanation?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:36 am to
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Tyrusrex


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:16 am to
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Goddamn you are one stupid mother fricker. Apparently reading comprehension is a skill you do not possess.

We've been through this before, and like before you are proving the real issue is the disconnect between what you're thinking and your fingertips.

I responded to some of your rambling OP by making a few simple arguments. Follow along here -

1. Trump f'd up on COVID.

2. A person can believe Trump f'd up on COVID and also believe the dementia patient would have done worse.

3. I don't believe COVID is the nail in Trump's reelection coffin.

4. But, Trump buying into COVID hysteria and what's ensued has dramatically hurt his chances. He was a shoe-in back in January. Today I'd call him a slight favorite.

You're evidently a fan of lockdowns, fake stats and masks in response to COVID and political/media pressure, so I won't ask about #1. But do you take issue with #2, #3 or #4?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:22 am to
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It’s not what they would do it’s what the media wouldn’t do. The media would down play the virus the entire time and tell us just to go about our lives and that would be that


No death tracker no mass panic. It would just be treated as a new flu. We also wouldn’t have this mass testing like we do now to find every single case possible

I agree with what you said, but that doesn't answer my question. The question was geared towards people who say they are voting for Biden because of Trump's handling of the virus. I do not think you are one of them.

No one has yet to give any logical examples of what Biden/Dems would have done differently that would have been better.

Tyrusrex laughably attempted to, but his attempt is a joke.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27356 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:27 am to
quote:

What Would Biden/Dems Do Different Than Trump In Handling Chinavirus


Whatever benefitted the party and their wallet.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:34 am to
quote:

We've been through this before, and like before you are proving the real issue is the disconnect between what you're thinking and your fingertips.

I responded to some of your rambling OP by making a few simple arguments. Follow along here -

1. Trump f'd up on COVID.

2. A person can believe Trump f'd up on COVID and also believe the dementia patient would have done worse.

3. I don't believe COVID is the nail in Trump's reelection coffin.

4. But, Trump buying into COVID hysteria and what's ensued has dramatically hurt his chances. He was a shoe-in back in January. Today I'd call him a slight favorite.

You're evidently a fan of lockdowns, fake stats and masks in response to COVID and political/media pressure, so I won't ask about #1. But do you take issue with #2, #3 or #4?

You just keep doubling down on dumbassery.



I asked what would Biden/Dems do differently. You have not given ONE GODDAMN ANSWER to the question. It's not your place to change what I'm asking. I know exactly what I'm asking, as do most everyone else here.

For you to suggest that I'm
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evidently a fan of lockdowns, fake stats and masks in response to COVID and political/media pressure, so I won't ask about #1.
is more proof that you lack any reading comprehension skills. Nothing that I posted would remotely suggest that. Most everyone in this thread understands where I'm coming from.

I'm done wasting my time with a moronic idiot. Go frick yourself loser.



This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 2:35 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34729 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:38 am to
That’s the thing though they wouldn’t have to do anything better because the media would cover for them 100% of the way and paint the picture of everything is fine and dandy
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9910 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:42 am to
Funny thing is that Biden has mentioned what he would have done differently, but he is to senile to realize that everything he said, Trump already had done. It’s his own party that was acting like it was nothing and Pelosi was walking in Chinatown saying no need to worry. Now they blame it all on Trump but the numbers are false. All to bring down an economy for the election.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:45 am to
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That’s the thing though they wouldn’t have to do anything better because the media would cover for them 100% of the way and paint the picture of everything is fine and dandy

You and I are completely on the same page with that. That is proving my point. No one can give an example of what they would do different, because there isn't anything realistic. You and I know why it wouldn't be presented as being mishandled because of the lying BS with the media reporting and there would not be the fear mongering.

It wouldn't be because of them HANDLING it better.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:49 am to
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Funny thing is that Biden has mentioned what he would have done differently, but he is to senile to realize that everything he said, Trump already had done. It’s his own party that was acting like it was nothing and Pelosi was walking in Chinatown saying no need to worry. Now they blame it all on Trump but the numbers are false. All to bring down an economy for the election.

You are correct Joe.

However, no Biden supporter would ever admit that...even though deep down, the two or three logical ones (if there are that many) would know that what you posted was true.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:55 am to
quote:

I know exactly what I'm asking, as do most everyone else here.

It’s unfortunate you can’t put your ideas/questions in discernible English. If you look at your OP, and then look at your clarifications later in this thread - it’s clear you realize you weren’t clear in your first post. But don’t feel bad about that, our schools aren’t what they used to be.

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For you to suggest that I'm
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evidently a fan of lockdowns, fake stats and masks in response to COVID and political/media pressure, so I won't ask about #1.
is more proof that you lack any reading comprehension skills. Nothing that I posted would remotely suggest that. Most everyone in this thread understands where I'm coming from.

I’m guessing you’re used to things going over your head, but I don’t want to make you feel bad about it - so I’ll kindly suggest you read over your first response to me, and then think really, really hard “what could I be missing?”

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I'm done wasting my time with a moronic idiot. Go frick yourself loser.

There’s a lot of this going around. Places like Portland and Seattle. Don’t be such a pussy.
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