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re: What Terror Attaks Are Going Uncovered?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:35 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:35 am to BamaAtl
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Not once the shooter was identified as a white nationalist Trump supporter, nope.
You would think, as much as the media hates Trump, if this is true "that this guy is actually a Trump supporter" why doesn't this dominate the news cycle? Can evidence to the contrary be covered up by Canadian law enforcement? How would anyone know if it was? This isn't something that can be investigated by the FBI? Has anyone seen any evidence to the contrary? This all went away fairly quickly for the narrative that this "shooter" was a Trump supporter.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:36 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:37 am to BamaAtl
How the frick would we know? They are uncovered
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:38 am to cahoots
well the Trump reaction is pretty natural b/c he's just doing the opposite of what Obama did
Obama intentionally downplayed radical islam and violenct incidents (sometimes terror) involving radical Islam, esp the ones on US soil
Trump is intentionally selling this threat as a response to the Obama policy
Obama intentionally downplayed radical islam and violenct incidents (sometimes terror) involving radical Islam, esp the ones on US soil
Trump is intentionally selling this threat as a response to the Obama policy
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:44 am to KaiserSoze99
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I haven't been following this thread but, 78 terror attacks allegedly went under-reported.
Trump's official list of underreported attacks includes the Nice attack last year. Someone tell me how that was underreported. It has its own Wikipedia page. There are literally thousands of articles and reports.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Uncovered can mean a number of things. Why don't you look at the depth and breadth of coverage given to the Trump audio tapes. That coverage dwarfed the last attacks in Germany that were actually caught on video.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:48 am to cahoots
Media went out of its way to report this as a lone wolf attack.
Under-reporting can also mean dishonest reporting.
Under-reporting can also mean dishonest reporting.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:56 am to Bjorn Cyborg
There's a lot of debate surrounding what constitutes a lone wolf attack vs. what is coordinated with ISIS. Very difficult to pin down. French officials initially released info concerning a lone wolf style attack. That's what the media reported.
My point is that Trump's overall angle is weak. You can nitpick, but terrorist attacks are widely covered from multiple angles.
My point is that Trump's overall angle is weak. You can nitpick, but terrorist attacks are widely covered from multiple angles.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:57 am
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:58 am to cahoots
he should have just doubled down and brought up fort hood, the oklahoma beheading, and how the media did everything they could to spin san bernadino and oralndo into non-terror attacks, then followed up with the "Obama refused to say 'radical Islamic terror' angle"
that would solve the optics/PR problem
that would solve the optics/PR problem
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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t would solve the optics/PR problem
But he doesn't have one? Everyone knows what he is saying and knows it's true, other than true believers like op.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:12 am to Turbeauxdog
Yes, Trump wins with these comments. Liberal heads spinning around. Normal people nod approval.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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how the media did everything they could to spin san bernadino and oralndo into non-terror attack
Know how I know you don't understand how journalism works?
We can't report it's a terrorist attack until it's confirmed as a terror attack. Despite what the ignorant masses thing, we're not in the business of speculation. Reason #157 why 24-hour news has ruined journalism. They spend too much time speculating instead of REPORTING.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:15 am to Superior Pariah
yeah well when the federal government has a policy to avoid labeling things terror attacks, you journalists have your hands tied. i mean Obama straight up labeled the Ft Hood and Okalhoma situations as "workplace violence" to avoid the optics issue, and after the Orlando shooting the fricking DOJ engaged in some great propaganda when it released the transcript of the shooter's phone call to remove Allah Akbar from the transcript. that was some true Orweillian shite
*ETA: call me a kook but i bet the media sheds this passivity with Trump in office
*ETA: call me a kook but i bet the media sheds this passivity with Trump in office
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
So then why is Trump blaming the media for terrorist coverage? With terrorist attacks, the media is largely relying on intel from government officials. How are they misreporting things when they are reporting the official language given by the President's press secretary, the DOJ, etc.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:48 am to cahoots
He just dodged the question and went into poor little me victim mode. Media, stop picking on our President. He just said he doesn't like negative stories on him. Follow his orders please.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:49 am to duggieblue
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Media, stop picking on our President
You mispelled lying
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:50 am to BamaAtl
Maybe he's talking about these violent terrorists protesting in our cities.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:55 am to cahoots
quote:
So then why is Trump blaming the media for terrorist coverage? With terrorist attacks, the media is largely relying on intel from government officials. How are they misreporting things when they are reporting the official language given by the President's press secretary, the DOJ, etc.
This. This right here. This right here is fricking bullshite. It is not the media's job to take what the government says like propagandists. I don't want them to do it with Trump and they shouldn't have done it with Obama.
The media is certainly capable of interviewing people and researching and making it's own decision on whether something is terrorism or not.
So NOW. Now that Trump is president. NOW the media has grown some balls. This is why people distrust the media.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:02 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Dude, when you write a story, it goes like this...
"The attack is believed to be the work of a lone wolf operative, according to Spicer."
Of course the media has an obligation to look into other sources but you can't blame them for what the government is saying.
It's all about sources. I'm not being partisan. That's how journalism is supposed to work.
"The attack is believed to be the work of a lone wolf operative, according to Spicer."
Of course the media has an obligation to look into other sources but you can't blame them for what the government is saying.
It's all about sources. I'm not being partisan. That's how journalism is supposed to work.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:03 am to cahoots
quote:Particularly anonymous sources, it gives you such freedom to say what you want.
Of course the media has an obligation to look into other sources
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