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re: What Terror Attaks Are Going Uncovered?

Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:35 am to
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Not once the shooter was identified as a white nationalist Trump supporter, nope.


You would think, as much as the media hates Trump, if this is true "that this guy is actually a Trump supporter" why doesn't this dominate the news cycle? Can evidence to the contrary be covered up by Canadian law enforcement? How would anyone know if it was? This isn't something that can be investigated by the FBI? Has anyone seen any evidence to the contrary? This all went away fairly quickly for the narrative that this "shooter" was a Trump supporter.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:36 am to
I haven't been following this thread but, 78 terror attacks allegedly went under-reported.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:37 am to
How the frick would we know? They are uncovered
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:38 am to
well the Trump reaction is pretty natural b/c he's just doing the opposite of what Obama did

Obama intentionally downplayed radical islam and violenct incidents (sometimes terror) involving radical Islam, esp the ones on US soil

Trump is intentionally selling this threat as a response to the Obama policy
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:44 am to
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I haven't been following this thread but, 78 terror attacks allegedly went under-reported.


Trump's official list of underreported attacks includes the Nice attack last year. Someone tell me how that was underreported. It has its own Wikipedia page. There are literally thousands of articles and reports.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:46 am to
Uncovered can mean a number of things. Why don't you look at the depth and breadth of coverage given to the Trump audio tapes. That coverage dwarfed the last attacks in Germany that were actually caught on video.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33883 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:48 am to
Media went out of its way to report this as a lone wolf attack.

Under-reporting can also mean dishonest reporting.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:56 am to
There's a lot of debate surrounding what constitutes a lone wolf attack vs. what is coordinated with ISIS. Very difficult to pin down. French officials initially released info concerning a lone wolf style attack. That's what the media reported.

My point is that Trump's overall angle is weak. You can nitpick, but terrorist attacks are widely covered from multiple angles.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:58 am to
he should have just doubled down and brought up fort hood, the oklahoma beheading, and how the media did everything they could to spin san bernadino and oralndo into non-terror attacks, then followed up with the "Obama refused to say 'radical Islamic terror' angle"

that would solve the optics/PR problem
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24075 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:59 am to
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t would solve the optics/PR problem

But he doesn't have one? Everyone knows what he is saying and knows it's true, other than true believers like op.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33883 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:12 am to
Yes, Trump wins with these comments. Liberal heads spinning around. Normal people nod approval.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:13 am to
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how the media did everything they could to spin san bernadino and oralndo into non-terror attack


Know how I know you don't understand how journalism works?

We can't report it's a terrorist attack until it's confirmed as a terror attack. Despite what the ignorant masses thing, we're not in the business of speculation. Reason #157 why 24-hour news has ruined journalism. They spend too much time speculating instead of REPORTING.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:15 am to
yeah well when the federal government has a policy to avoid labeling things terror attacks, you journalists have your hands tied. i mean Obama straight up labeled the Ft Hood and Okalhoma situations as "workplace violence" to avoid the optics issue, and after the Orlando shooting the fricking DOJ engaged in some great propaganda when it released the transcript of the shooter's phone call to remove Allah Akbar from the transcript. that was some true Orweillian shite

*ETA: call me a kook but i bet the media sheds this passivity with Trump in office
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:16 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:42 am to
So then why is Trump blaming the media for terrorist coverage? With terrorist attacks, the media is largely relying on intel from government officials. How are they misreporting things when they are reporting the official language given by the President's press secretary, the DOJ, etc.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4362 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:48 am to
He just dodged the question and went into poor little me victim mode. Media, stop picking on our President. He just said he doesn't like negative stories on him. Follow his orders please.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24075 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:49 am to
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Media, stop picking on our President


You mispelled lying
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30343 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:50 am to
Maybe he's talking about these violent terrorists protesting in our cities.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33883 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:55 am to
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So then why is Trump blaming the media for terrorist coverage? With terrorist attacks, the media is largely relying on intel from government officials. How are they misreporting things when they are reporting the official language given by the President's press secretary, the DOJ, etc.


This. This right here. This right here is fricking bullshite. It is not the media's job to take what the government says like propagandists. I don't want them to do it with Trump and they shouldn't have done it with Obama.

The media is certainly capable of interviewing people and researching and making it's own decision on whether something is terrorism or not.

So NOW. Now that Trump is president. NOW the media has grown some balls. This is why people distrust the media.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:02 am to
Dude, when you write a story, it goes like this...

"The attack is believed to be the work of a lone wolf operative, according to Spicer."

Of course the media has an obligation to look into other sources but you can't blame them for what the government is saying.

It's all about sources. I'm not being partisan. That's how journalism is supposed to work.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83752 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:03 am to
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Of course the media has an obligation to look into other sources
Particularly anonymous sources, it gives you such freedom to say what you want.
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