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re: What is CISA And Why Should We Care?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 4:13 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/25/23 at 4:13 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
And nothing in the CISA statue mentions pandemics you freaking imbecilic clown!
CISA is mandated to offer guidance and recommendations regarding threats to critical infrastructure at all times, including during pandemics.
quote:
(c) Responsibilities <> .--The Director
shall--
``(1) lead cybersecurity and critical infrastructure
security programs, operations, and associated policy for the
Agency, including national cybersecurity asset response
activities;
``(2) coordinate with Federal entities, including Sector-
Specific Agencies, and non-Federal entities, including
international entities, to carry out the cybersecurity and
critical infrastructure activities of the Agency, as
appropriate;
``(3) carry out the responsibilities of the Secretary to
secure Federal information and information systems consistent
with law, including subchapter II of chapter 35 of title 44,
United States Code, and the Cybersecurity Act of 2015
The law clearly not only authorizes, but compels, the agency to assess critical infrastructure security. It's not just for cyber security.
What is critical infrastructure? Let's find out!
quote:
(3) Critical infrastructure information
The term "critical infrastructure information" means information not customarily in the public domain and related to the security of critical infrastructure or protected systems—
(A) actual, potential, or threatened interference with, attack on, compromise of, or incapacitation of critical infrastructure or protected systems by either physical or computer-based attack or other similar conduct (including the misuse of or unauthorized access to all types of communications and data transmission systems) that violates Federal, State, or local law, harms interstate commerce of the United States, or threatens public health or safety;
(B) the ability of any critical infrastructure or protected system to resist such interference, compromise, or incapacitation, including any planned or past assessment, projection, or estimate of the vulnerability of critical infrastructure or a protected system, including security testing, risk evaluation thereto, risk management planning, or risk audit; or
(C) any planned or past operational problem or solution regarding critical infrastructure or protected systems, including repair, recovery, reconstruction, insurance, or continuity, to the extent it is related to such interference, compromise, or incapacitation.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 4:17 pm
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Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Telling you what the statute actually says, when asked a question specifically requesting the "specific language of the statute" means nothing for this discussion? Please explain. I'd love to hear this.
I'd love for you to hear it as well. I quoted exactly what I replied to, nothing more. I don't see where an explanation is warranted based on how you presented the language. You use/integrate "statutory mandates" as if that somehow verifies your claim(s) that a specific action took place. I'll give you #2, but you have no F'ing idea if #1 or #3 are true.
#1- "CISA never was co-opted or operated outside of its statutory mandate"
#3- "CISA is mandated by statute to offer guidance for threats to critical infrastructure, which is all it did."
Or you can explain how this summary is incorrect:
quote:
1. CISA never was co-opted or operated outside of its statutory mandate
2. CISA never "declared a state of de facto martial law over the entire economy"
3. CISA is mandated by statute to offer guidance for threats to critical infrastructure, which is all it did.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
That quote is from months ago. This is a bumped thread just FYI
And the internet never forgets. You said the 2014 CIA sponsored coup in the Ukraine had no bearing on the current geopolitical situation in Eastern Europe.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:22 pm to 2020_reVISION
quote:
You use/integrate "statutory mandates" as if that somehow verifies your claim(s) that a specific action took plac
No I didn't use statutory mandates to verify anything other than what the language of the statute is, when asked to cite language from the statute.
Try to keep up and stop flailing because you look like an idiot for not paying attention.
quote:
but you have no F'ing idea if #1 or #3 are true.
#1- "CISA never was co-opted or operated outside of its statutory mandate"
#3- "CISA is mandated by statute to offer guidance for threats to critical infrastructure, which is all it did."
#1 is easily verifiable, especially within the context of this conversation. OP posted guidance and recommendations that specifically state they do not have the force of law, pretending like the guidance somehow crated "de facto martial law over the entire economy".
#3 is true based on literal statutory language I have posted in this thread.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:23 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
ou said the 2014 CIA sponsored coup in the Ukraine had no bearing on the current geopolitical situation in Eastern Europe.
I didn't say it had no bearing, but it had no bearing to rational actors. Putin isn't a rational actor and he got real mad b/c he fricked up and caused the Maidan Revolution. He was so mad and wants to prevent Ukraine from joining the EU so badly he invaded even when the US puppet wasn't in office (aka, not rational).
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:24 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:
You won't be popular here. CISA 2018 was signed into law by Trump.
Then the swamp creatures populated it.
It is never, ever, Trump's fault.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
CISA is mandated to offer guidance and recommendations regarding threats to critical infrastructure at all times, including during pandemics.
quote:
SlowFlowPro
Nothing in the original bill comes close to giving CISA the authority to offer “regulatory guidance” during a pandemic.
Yet here we go again: highlighting critical infrastructure in bold to back your assertion.
Stop acting fricking retarded.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:27 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
It is never, ever, Trump's fault.
Technically, this isn't even Trump's fault because it didn't even do the stuff referenced in OP.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:29 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
Nothing in the original bill comes close to giving CISA the authority to offer “regulatory guidance” during a pandemic.
Wrong. I will literally post just a snippet, again:
quote:
`(e) Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Authorities of the Secretary.--
``(1) In general.--The responsibilities of the Secretary relating to cybersecurity and infrastructure security shall include the following:
quote:
(C) Recommendations. To integrate relevant information, analysis, and vulnerability assessments, regardless of whether the information, analysis, or assessments are provided or produced by the Department, in order to make recommendations, including prioritization, for protective and support measures by the Department, other Federal Government agencies, State, local, tribal, and territorial government agencies and authorities, the private sector, and other entities regarding terrorist and other threats to homeland security.
quote:
(E) Coordination. Plan. To develop, in coordination with the Sector-Specific Agencies with available expertise, a comprehensive national plan for securing the key resources and critical infrastructure of the United States, including power production, generation, and distribution systems, information technology and telecommunications systems (including satellites), electronic financial and property record storage and transmission systems, emergency communications systems, and the physical and technological assets that support those systems.
quote:
`(F) Recommendations. To recommend measures necessary to protect the key resources and critical infrastructure of the United States in coordination with other Federal Government agencies, including Sector-Specific Agencies, and in cooperation with State, local, tribal, and territorial government agencies and authorities, the private sector, and other entities.
LINK
quote:
Yet here we go again: highlighting critical infrastructure in bold to back your assertion.
You're literally arguing with written words that I have posted and pretending they don't exist
quote:
Stop acting fricking retarded.
Learn how to read and articulate an actual point
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I didn't say it had no bearing, but it had no bearing to rational actors.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:33 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how
Doesn't exist in the statute, when I copied and pasted it from the statute
quote:
in order to make recommendations, including prioritization, for protective and support measures by the Department, other Federal Government agencies, State, local, tribal, and territorial government agencies and authorities
Doesn't exist in the statute, when I copied and pasted it from the statute
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:51 pm to David_DJS
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I can attest to this. Follow up his signing CISA into law by mentioning he also extended FISA, and you'll ironically be called a RINO for mentioning it.
The reason that you’re getting down voted is not because you are somehow “burning” Trump … it’s because you are a useful idiot for ‘big government’. No sane person believes that the President has any actual powers to make wholesale changes….it’s a corrupt system that was very close to being 100% corrupted and Donald Trump shined a big bright light on the corruption. When people keep pushing for Trump 2024 it’s not because they think he would be a better President than Biden, they want Trump to be President because it would mean than over half of the population clearly sees extreme problems in Washington DC with corruption, theft, government overthrows, economic malfeasance (debt accumulation over decades), all other decisions that aren’t in the public’s interest but for their gain, etc, etc. It’s the exact same argument that was briefly made during the Occupy Wall Street movement but with better economics.
Have you ever wondered why they hate him so much? Why do you hate him so much?
Think back at all of the stories running 24/7 for 6 years …. How many came out to be true? Russia interfered with the election? Russian pee-pee tape? Making fun of handicapped people? “Fine people on both sides” comment? Micheal Cohen? Creepy Porn Lawyer? Now, it’s Stormy Daniels again.
IF there were any evidence of a crime he would be in prison (and if it were true he would deserve to be in prison)….but he’s not.
You all are getting played by the media and being brainwashed. They have brainwashed you by constantly playing bad news and investigations…,just like Pavlov’s dog.
Don’t you ever wonder … just a little….. who is the “Big Guy” in the emails and texts between the Chinese Communist Party and the President of the United State’s crackhead son???? Isn’t that a inherent conflict AND national security concern!
Voting Trump 2024 is bigger than the election.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how
I’ve told you multiple times but I can’t make you understand it. Yet once again, the CISA bill was passed under the aegis of protecting our nation’s critical infrastructure from cyber-security threats, not a biological pathogen. It is a classic example of mission creep.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Technically, this isn't even Trump's fault because it didn't even do the stuff referenced in OP.
And none of your dissembling changes the reality that there is no reference in the bill for CISA to have regulatory purview in the event of a pandemic. You fricking retard.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
That quote is from months ago. This is a bumped thread just FYI
So yeah?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:02 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
the CISA bill was passed under the aegis of protecting our nation’s critical infrastructure from cyber-security threats,
And critics infrastructure....which was affected by Covid
Read the law and stop changing your argument
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:04 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
that there is no reference in the bill for CISA to have regulatory purview in the event of a pandemic.
This did not happen. Show me where CISA was used for any regulatory act.
CISA has regulatory advisement and recommendation mandates, which is all that happened.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:04 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
So yeah?
Zelensky ousting our guy is a simple (and truthful) factual statement
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:05 pm to Tandemjay
quote:careful Toomer Deplorable will attempt to take your free speech from you when it may be mentioned who is running that right now
"What is CIsA And Why Should We Care?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Zelensky ousting our guy is a simple (and truthful) factual statement
You are a clown.
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