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What happened to the Qing Dynasty and Republic of China govt bonds that the US still holds

Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:36 am
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8473 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:36 am

Finally, someone in the United States has started asking the obvious question:
what exactly happened to the Qing Dynasty and Republic of China government bonds that the U.S. still holds?
If the Chinese Communist Party insists those debts don’t count, then by the same logic, there’s no sacred reason the United States must honor U.S. Treasury bonds held by the CCP either.

And if Beijing’s defense is that “the Qing Dynasty and the Republic of China are not today’s China,” then congratulations—you’ve just invalidated the entire “since ancient times” narrative in terms of Taiwan in one sentence.

You can’t disown history when it comes to debt
and then reclaim it when it comes to territory.

I used to think the CCP was playing some kind of grand, long-term chess game.
Turns out it wasn’t chess at all.
Just a pile of rhetorical boomerangs—thrown confidently,
only to come spinning back at full speed.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:48 am to
Bonds are enforced by either the market punishing you enough for defaulting to make that more painful than paying it or with seizing property and territory through the use of force to satisfy the debt.

If neither of those things are realistic or palatable options, it’s worth the paper it’s written on.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3955 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:25 am to
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seizing property and territory through the use of force to satisfy the debt.


There's a lot of Chinese owned land in the US we can start taking a gander at
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:28 am to
I wouldn’t put it past this Administration.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 8:29 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98295 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:31 am to
Would you be upset if they did?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65584 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:33 am to
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Qing Dynasty
Destroyed by a woman.
quote:

Republic of China govt bonds
Would Taiwan not be the country against whom those bonds are held? That's where the ROC govt. went and ROC is still the official name of that country, not Taiwan.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:47 am to
I’d like to see a writ of seizure from a competent court before

The rule of law is what constrains 2032 AOC from running roughshod over things in the name of her unilateral declaration of climate change as an emergency.
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