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re: What DeepSeek knows about you — Why it matters DeepSeek’s privacy issues should worry you

Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:17 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:17 am to
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Nothing about Deepseek passed the smell test the minute the press release went public announcing it. I believed close to nothing coming out of the CCP.



The good news is the code is on the internet for anyone to read, check and verify.

Look it's still not easy for a guy on his laptop to download DeepSeek code and set up an AI bot on their laptop. You need a little more computing power than that. But it is perfectly reasonable for small outfits like Gab to setup their own AI bots over night with minimal computing power....like https://gab.ai/

The point is you don't need a server farms with $100s of million of dollars in Nvida GPUs being powered by modular nuclear power plants to run a DeepSeek based AI bot that is equivalent to OpenAI's ChatGPT.

Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5545 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:59 am to
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Writing is thinking
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We’re hurling towards dystopia, and no one seems to care
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By having a full record of how we type, they also have a record of how we think
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When people stupidly parrot, “what’s the big deal, they have all our information anyway”, they don’t know what the frick they are talking about.

Really is scary sad seeing people on here responding like this. Giving up. They can't see past their nose. They learned nothing from the slippery slopes we have seen over the years. Then complain when things happen and act like it's some new thing.

I want to pull my hair out when I have family that respond like that, because you know you can't trust them.

Virtual Reality goggles fit in your "learning the way you think" explanation. Irrc it takes 30mins-1hr for the system to permanently learn how your brain works through your eye movements.

The worst are the people who say things like why does it matter if (a foreign enemy) China has it, our govt does?? The ignorance in not seeing the difference is mind boggling.

This AI/AGI stuff is scaring people who are in the thick of it, and that should be a sign. Hope Trump is able to figure out how to prevent it from affecting the next election. This is way bigger than the "deep fakes" potential.

People brushing it off today as no big deal or "too late" will be the same people complaining in a few years how all their personnel private phone info has been used against them somehow. Well that's what happens when you download every app on your phone, just to save on a few coupons. /rant
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5545 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:11 am to
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That’s why I still don’t get the Tik Tok uproar

We talk about our own government having data on people, and using it as blackmail on say a politician. If we have the right leaders, that could possibly change.

Now imagine all the personal data TT (is China) has collected in our future politicians, and how it'll be used. It's not about TT core purpose, as much as, all the data being collected. How it cross collects data from other apps on your phone etc. People just want to have it disconnected from the Chinese system. Really is interesting how people have fallen for CCP propaganda, and not able to understand the core want here.

This is like people not understanding why it's utterly stupid for people to connect their phone to their cars Bluetooth. Literally uploading everything on your phone into your cars OEMs database. Yes...that means that private sexy time message/pic your wife sent you is no longer just for you.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:23 am to
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What is your current trade position on NVDA?
I'm not much of a trader (unless volatility is crazy), and certainly not into something like wash transactions. Even though we work out of several separate portfolio/accounts, which would enable it.

Nah, in a perfect world, I'd buy and hold (e.g., decent position in AAPL at a $29 CB). Unfortunately, as Burns said, the best laid schemes of mice and men go oft awry ... bouts of volatility will morph some b&h plans into a churn even outside of tax protected accounts.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135215 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:31 am to
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The worst are the people who say things like why does it matter if (a foreign enemy) China has it, our govt does?? The ignorance in not seeing the difference is mind boggling.


Now brace for the incoming salvo of sophomoric invectives and name calling.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135215 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Worried about privacy?
At this point I’d trust the Chinese with our data over the NSA.



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DeepSeek leaks one million sensitive records in a major data breach
30 Jan 2025

Chinese AI startup DeepSeek left critical user data and internal secrets unprotected, raising alarms over security risks in the AI industry.

A New York-based cybersecurity firm, Wiz, has uncovered a critical security lapse at DeepSeek, a rising Chinese AI startup, revealing a cache of sensitive data openly accessible on the internet.

According to a report published by Wiz, the exposed data included over a million lines of log entries, digital software keys, backend details, and user chat history from DeepSeek’s AI assistant. The firm’s researchers found that DeepSeek had inadvertently left an unsecured ClickHouse database accessible online, raising significant security concerns for enterprises and governments globally.

Wiz Chief Technology Officer Ami Luttwak confirmed in a blog post that DeepSeek swiftly acted to secure the database after being alerted.

“They took it down in less than an hour,” Luttwak stated in the blog post. “But this was so simple to find, we believe we’re not the only ones who found it.”
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The breach posed a severe risk, not only to DeepSeek but also to its users, as attackers could potentially exploit the exposed credentials to gain deeper access into the company’s systems.
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DeepSeek’s rapid rise in the AI landscape has positioned it as a formidable player, but its recent security mishap raises critical questions about AI governance and risk management. For enterprises considering AI adoption, due diligence on security practices is more crucial than ever.

As global regulators tighten scrutiny, the incident may set a precedent for how AI firms handle security and compliance. While DeepSeek may have acted swiftly to remediate the issue, the long-term impact of this exposure remains to be seen.
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