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Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:28 pm to Zach
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And when you don't pay back a loan it = a grant
Unless you're tDonald, he calls it, "Bankruptcy".
See you in court.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:29 pm to LosLobos111
If you think the coal industry is going to make a comeback, youre a lunitic. its just plain inefficient and not work the extraction cost .
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The reason for policy is cronyism, not clean air or water. There will always be winners and losers
There is a lot of truth to this. Unfortunately, there aren't practical and effective alternatives.
It's strange though because when I'm asked for input on permit language of rule revision.. the people writing those permits are relatively low level.
Sounds like a conspiracy..
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:34 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:He listened to too much of Big Bad John as a kid.
This just in those coal miners were just killed in an unsafe mine.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:38 pm to tigerfoot
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I listen to bankers about banking issues, and coal miners about coal mining issues. I don't think it is wise to tell a guy who makes his living under ground how you are here to help him from killing himself
Sounds dumb. What does a coal miner know about oncology, emissions, or environmental impacts? Very little probably.
I'd get my info from experts and scientific literature.. and base decisions on that
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:40 pm to Bison
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its just plain inefficient and not work the extraction cost
Why are we still using coal?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:45 pm to bmy
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the people writing those permits are relatively low level.
Those people usually aren't deciding policy.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:46 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Most of those miners are hunters & fishermen...or people who otherwise respect nature (most/all live in the country). The last thing they would want is to destroy the nature in their own backyard.
Probably quite true. I bet the corp they work for doesn't give a damn though.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:50 pm to albanyla
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Probably quite true. I bet the corp they work for doesn't give a damn though.
If they're on the hook for damages, they do.
The industrial world has changed quite a bit since the 50's. It's not in a companies best interest to destroy their environment
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Those people usually aren't deciding policy
They decide on the wording and the specifics given input from a board or committee. Typically, when I see high level people benefit from their influence it's via deregulation or it just goes into the black hole of enforcement lawyers never to be seen again
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:06 pm to Homesick Tiger
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On FOX news rat now.
Any relation to pizza rat? They do both live and work in NYC.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:08 pm to LosLobos111
Um...isn't Natural Gas basically pricing coal out of the market regardless of environmental regs?
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You know a lot of policy makers and people giving input have worked in the field right?
The reason for policy is cronyism, not clean air or water. There will always be winners and losers
What's your position on the Pebble?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:14 pm to LosLobos111
Hell yeah! I hate clean air and water. Black lung lately?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The industrial world has changed quite a bit since the 50's. It's not in a companies best interest to destroy their environment
Gotta give some credit to the EPA and the Air/Water acts.. right?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:20 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Most of those miners are hunters & fishermen...or people who otherwise respect nature (most/all live in the country). The last thing they would want is to destroy the nature in their own backyard.
Nevertheless, that's the result. People are able to rationalize away a lot of their principles when money's in the picture.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:21 pm to bmy
So, you withhold opinions on every subject till all due research is done? What do you do, bump threads three years later
And if it comes to answering a question if I am at risk of dying in a coal mine. I will trust a coal miner over the EPA or the oncologist in my home town.
And if it comes to answering a question if I am at risk of dying in a coal mine. I will trust a coal miner over the EPA or the oncologist in my home town.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:26 pm to LosLobos111
My Pennsylvania... we love you painted red
My Pennsylvania... oh you look good painted red
My Amish sisters... my Union brothers...
Oh we all look good when we in red... yeah!
My Pennsylvania... oh you look good painted red
My Amish sisters... my Union brothers...
Oh we all look good when we in red... yeah!
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