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re: Vance thinks aliens are actually demons

Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Having googled these... it's a potential possibility theoretically speaking... so, not a planet with life or that provably support life.
What point did you think you were refuting when you asked for three examples?
Posted by SludgeFactory
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
I'm atheist but I also believe there is "evil". It is plain as day and you see it many times on a daily basis in other humans. One of the main reasons I quit voting with Democrats. If Demons are real, they run that party and they showed me again what they are in the last state of the union as well as when their followers resort to violence against fellow citizens.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:55 pm to
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What point did you think you were refuting when you asked for three examples?


That there are other habitable planets.

There, to date, are not.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:58 pm to
I'll Help you out. He said:

quote:

There are billions of planets out there that can support life. Over 300 million that can support life in the Milky Way Galaxy alone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 4:58 pm to
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As I just stated, they could be the same thing.


If it's a biological being from a distant planet, it cannot be a demon, unless you REALLY change the definition of "demon" to fit your argument.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:00 pm to
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I'll Help you out. He said: quote:There are billions of planets out there that can support life. Over 300 million that can support life in the Milky Way Galaxy alone.


There's not that either.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:01 pm to
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If it's a biological being from a distant planet, it cannot be a demon, unless you REALLY change the definition of "demon" to fit your argument.


You aren't versed enough on the Bible to say this.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:03 pm to
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it's a biological being from a distant planet, it cannot be a demon, unless you REALLY change the definition of "demon" to fit your argument.


Unless a demon is a biological being from a distant planet.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:03 pm to
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You aren't versed enough on the Bible to say this.



Sounds like you're going for the "anything not of god is the devil" logic, here.

Explain to me the history of demons, specifically their biological genesis, without any reference to them as ethereal beings created by God (therefore not biology), to create a definition that works here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:04 pm to
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Unless a demon is a biological being from a distant planet.


That is "changing the definition of 'demon' to fit your argument" and means that the demons referenced in the Bible weren't really demons (as they are not of biological origins).
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:05 pm to
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There's not that either.
Incorrect. Those are planets in the right temperature range where liquid water can exist. That’s what “can support life” means. It does not mean “we’ve verified life is there,” which you've either intentionally attempted to shift his argument to or did so unintentionally because you misunderstood what he said.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:06 pm to
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without any reference to them as ethereal beings


Who said they're ethereal?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:10 pm to
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Who said they're ethereal?


The history of demonology of basically every religion that has a concept of demons.

That's why they can do things like possess people or influence people via non-tactile means. That's not biology being used.
Posted by Neutral Underground
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:11 pm to
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The rapture will be blamed on aliens


That is interesting. Never thought about it like that. All the people still left on the planet would believe that they were the "lucky" ones.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Incorrect. Those are planets in the right temperature range where liquid water can exist. That’s what “can support life” means.


So water CAN possibly perhaps exist is all it takes? Nothing about atmosphere?
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:19 pm to
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So water CAN possibly perhaps exist is all it takes? Nothing about atmosphere?
Why did you skip past the most important part: temp? If you combine temp and water that gets you a little closer to predicting the atmosphere, wouldn't you think?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Why did you skip past the most important part: temp? If you combine temp and water that gets you a little closer to predicting the atmosphere, wouldn't you think?


You know they're going to just keep moving the goalposts
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:30 pm to
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You know they're going to just keep moving the goalposts
I’m not good at fixing mechanical stuff, and I wouldn’t try to “feel” my way through repairing a toaster. It’s wild to me that people will try to do exactly that with physics, astronomy, and math.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 6:19 pm to
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That is "changing the definition of 'demon' to fit your argument" and means that the demons referenced in the Bible weren't really demons (as they are not of biological origins).


Or maybe it’s the correct definition of demon. Demons and gods from ancient texts just might be aliens.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 6:21 pm to
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Unless a demon is a biological being from a distant planet.


Oh good lord.
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