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U.S.greatest threat to world peace

Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:18 am to
I know everyone reemed obama for the "apology tour" but maybe at this point it's best we just say sorry to some of these places and withdraw our involvement with them.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:21 am to
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I know everyone reemed obama for the "apology tour" but maybe at this point it's best we just say sorry to some of these places and withdraw our involvement with them.



We should have removed most of our troops out of everywhere long ago.
Posted by mooseknuckle
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 12:35 pm to
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We should have removed most of our troops out of everywhere long ago.


Shut down foreign bases and build new ones along the border. So many issues solved.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 12:38 pm to
I can agree with getting out of Europe and to some extent the ME. Keeping our bases in the Pacific is a must to counter China. This is one area where Obamas foreign policy is coherent.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 1:36 pm to
The US is the world's only hope for world peace really. The world is basically at peace right now and we've gotten off to a far less violent start of our century than basically any before it. The world's value is centered around our wealth as a people, and if we go, then the world will fall back into chaos and expect worldwide war.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 1:43 pm to
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The US is the world's only hope for world peace really. The world is basically at peace right now and we've gotten off to a far less violent start of our century than basically any before it. The world's value is centered around our wealth as a people, and if we go, then the world will fall back into chaos and expect worldwide war.



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Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:04 pm to
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The US is the world's only hope for world peace really. The world is basically at peace right now and we've gotten off to a far less violent start of our century than basically any before it. The world's value is centered around our wealth as a people, and if we go, then the world will fall back into chaos and expect worldwide war.


Which is why we should stop pissing away our treasure funding military adventures around the world. Our military doesn't keep the world at peace. International commerce does.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Which is why we should stop pissing away our treasure funding military adventures around the world. Our military doesn't keep the world at peace. International commerce does.



What happens when China and Japan get into in the new China ADIZ which neither Japan nor the US recognizes and it blooms into a wide scale regional war? What does economics say about that?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:11 pm to
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What happens when China and Japan get into in the new China ADIZ which neither Japan nor the US recognizes and it blooms into a wide scale regional war? What does economics say about that?


That fighting a modern war over an arbitrary line is a terrible economic decision and is incredibly unlikely?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:16 pm to
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That fighting a modern war over an arbitrary line is a terrible economic decision and is incredibly unlikely?



Agreed. So why would the Chinese create an arbitrary line just to piss the Japanese off? Could it be that they deem the natural resources around those islands are of enough Economic value to risk war with the Japanese?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Agreed. So why would the Chinese create an arbitrary line just to piss the Japanese off? Could it be that they deem the natural resources around those islands are of enough Economic value to risk war with the Japanese?


My guess? They hope Japan will roll over, which is possible.

Do you think there is much of a chance that both Japan and China are worth fighting a full scale war over this line? I certainly don't.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Do you think there is much of a chance that both Japan and China are worth fighting a full scale war over this line? I certainly don't.


I think there won't be a war as long as the US maintains military parity with the Chinese in the Pacific. If we leave the area China may very well take those islands by force and Japan may feel the need to fight for them.
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My guess? They hope Japan will roll over, which is possible.


I think this as well.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 2:30 pm to
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If we leave the area China may very well take those islands by force and Japan may feel the need to fight for them.


I don't see that happening, whether we are there or not. However, if it does, it will only be to their detriment. I see no reason to spend our treasure simply to act as a disincentive to two stupid major powers spending theirs.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Shut down foreign bases and build new ones along the border. So many issues solved.


This! Also, require all NGOs and other transnational aid relief agencies to distribute contraceptives in the overpopulated and underdeveloped countries.
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