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re: USAID rigged Brazil’s elections & called it aid

Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:14 am to
Posted by aero1126
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:14 am to
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Oh I'm not saying that.

I think we're the most benevolent criminal enterprise on the world stage.
Then

Unfortunately some people on this forum actually have adopted the "Russia good, America bad" mindset.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 1:15 am
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:15 am to
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The US is one of the bad guys.. and I had no idea.. none.. zero


Then you weren't paying attention. Or buying all the rah rah propaganda they taught in Civics class.

A 245 yr old country doesn't dominate a 2000+ year old world by mere happenstance..it takes a bad guy to be able to kick the shite out of established heavyweights.. and keep sh!tbirds at bay.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:19 am to
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when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win.


Is this comedy hour so late in the evening? The US govt mafia has repeatedly attempted to install the least democratic choices globally. Not to mention weak a$$ leaders who inevitably fail under their own weight.

Look at Iraq. Look at Ukraine. Look at Brasilia.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:24 am to
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t takes a bad guy to be able to kick the shite out of established heavyweights.. and keep sh!tbirds at bay.



Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:28 am to
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Look at Iraq. Look at Ukraine. Look at Brasilia.


Iraq? You mean the country invaded by a republican president (twice)?

Ukraine? You mean the country that has had multiple elections after Putin's puppet was overthrown (and who ran to Russia afterwards)?

Brazil? I'll let you have that one.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:30 am to
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Ukraine? You mean the country that has had multiple elections


There have been zero elections since Zelensky, who is he the puppet for?
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:36 am to
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There have been zero elections since Zelensky, who is he the puppet for?


You may have noticed there's a major war taking place in Ukraine. Neither the US nor Britain had elections during WWII.

Kind of hard to have an election when the other side can lob a missile right on when you are campaigning or people are trying to vote. This isn't a complex subject.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:38 am to
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Neither the US nor Britain had elections during WWII.


My dude.

FDR was elected to his fourth term in 1944.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:38 am to
Who tf do you think Zelensky is?
Who tf do you think Al Malaki was?
You’ve strangely conceded Brazil so at least you’re open to dialogue.

All US puppets and it doesn’t matter if the US president at the time was GOP or Dem as that isn’t the purpose of this thread. We’re discussing US intervention in foreign countries.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:39 am to
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There's still a difference, when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win.


Lololol


No.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:39 am to
It's a proxy war, you are making it complicated, all while defending what in the west we would call a dictatorship, this isn't WWII
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:46 am to
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It's a proxy war, you are making it complicated, all while defending what in the west we would call a dictatorship, this isn't WWII


This isn't a proxy war for Ukrainians, they are fighting Russians on their own lands and Russia routinely shoots missiles into heavily populated civilian areas. If the US was being invaded and having missiles shot into our Cities, I promise we wouldn't be holding an election at the same time.

BTW, Zelensky has been been there just over 5 years, and a term for Ukraine is 5 years (Election obviously delayed due to above).

Some of you guys acting like he's been there for 30+ years without an election are idiots.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:54 am to
I'm not going to play semantics, Zelensky will make concessions and that will be the end of it, you're spouting platitudes and most of what the whole conflict is over is precious/critical minerals. Just like most other conflicts, it's not as much about attrition as you make it out to be.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:57 am to
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Zelensky will make concessions and that will be the end of it,



And just like that . . .

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Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:58 am to
And there it is
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:01 am to
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And just like that . . .



You guys realize that this "concession" isn't to end the war right? The only way we would get minerals is if we continue to defend Ukraine. You get that, right?

"This does not mean that we are giving it away to anyone, even to strategic partners. We are talking about partnership. Let’s develop this together.”
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 2:03 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:06 am to
My prediction on how this ends.


Zelenskey is going to lose:

1. Parts of Eastern Ukraine.
2. Rare earth minerals
3. His presidency


Time will tell if I'm right or not.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:09 am to
That's exactly what's going to happen,and rather than let Ukraine embezzle anymore aid, Trump will deal with Putin personally.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:11 am to
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That's exactly what's going to happen,and rather than let Ukraine embezzle anymore aid, Trump will deal with Putin personally.


A lot of faith in the guy who said he'd end it in a day, yet obviously still hasn't.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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28101 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:13 am to
It's politics dude, the conflict will be ended before midterms.
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