re: Ukraine Crisis: What you're not being told

There are no white hats in Ukraine.

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Can you really blame the Ukrainians and Cossacks, or any Slav demographic for that matter, for being anti-Semitic after what Lazarus Kaganovich's team of genocidal maniacs did to 7 million Ukrainians during Holodomor?

Holodomor is a genocidal atrocity that never received half the publicity as that of the other atrocity that starts with the letter H.

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No, but that is missing the point. I mean, I can understand why they may dislike jews, but it shouldn't be acceptable to try to kill them. Just as blacks have reason to hate whites but a political party with the aim to kill whites is unacceptable.

Do you see the guy raising his hand like Hitler?

And we've aligned with these extremists.

The media hasn't really been giving us this side of the story, why? That's the point.

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JLSIX

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That's not acceptable.

Nothing in the OP is outrageous. It's legitimate information.

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There are no white hats in Ukraine.

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That's fine, but why isn't the media portraying the opposition as the fascist extremists that they are? Why is it okay that we've backed some pretty bad dudes?

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The media hasn't really been giving us this side of the story, why?

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Yes they have, watch the vice piece they explain the pro-Nazi arm of the fight very well. They are a fringe group along with many others. They are not the controlling interest in this whole thing. There are many factions and they are just one of them. All of the news outlets have mentioned the Nazi connection to some of the uprising and new government.

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Don't recall saying anything about any alphabet R or W's. I also never said i supported the invasion of Iraq. I just know you are a diehard staunch supporter of Obama. I have said many times that Bush was an idiot and i hated many of his policies. The PATRIOT ACT is one of the worst pieces of reactionary legislation ever passed.

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You must not read this board very often if you think I'm a diehard Obama supporter. Perhaps you're projecting and are assuming that because you love W, I must feel that same way about a Democratic President. Or maybe your hatred of Obama is so blind that you think only a person who loves him would defend him against blatantly racist attacks of the worse kind. Do you think calling Obama a subhuman mongrel is within the boundaries of civil discourse?

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That's not acceptable.

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you are unacceptable

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Yes they have, watch the vice piece they explain the pro-Nazi arm of the fight very well. They are a fringe group along with many others. They are not the controlling interest in this whole thing. There are many factions and they are just one of them. All of the news outlets have mentioned the Nazi connection to some of the uprising and new government.

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I say bull.

The big news outlets have not made it a priority to cover it. And they certainly are ignoring the reports that the snipers were a part of the new government. The media honed in on the fact the women in the leaked phone call said 'frick the EU' while ignoring the more important information.

It's not in the collective understanding of what is going on, that's what is important. If something is mildly mentioned it won't get into the collective narrative unless the media makes a big deal out of it.

And the media certainly isn't talking about how much we've backed certain groups.

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They are a fringe group along with many others. They are not the controlling interest in this whole thing

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That is not true.

Svoboda and Right Sektor have the most control.

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Perhaps you're projecting and are assuming that because you love W, I must feel that same way about a Democratic President

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Where do you come up with this shite?

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Or maybe your hatred of Obama

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This we can agree on. He is a horrible president.

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only a person who loves him would defend him against blatantly racist attacks of the worse kind

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90% of what most call racist is disagreeing with his lousy administration. But because he is black any disagreement must be out of racist intentions.

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Do you think calling Obama a subhuman mongrel is within the boundaries of civil discourse?

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So now one comment from a Drugged out rock musician is the view if white America. Who gives a shite what Nugent’s dumb arse says.

Does this same logic apply to some like Cher and her comments about the GOP?

I don't take political advice for retarded celebrities.