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UK should not be considered a democracy if Brexit does not go through.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:57 am
Nigel Farage has admitted the Brexit vote could be overturned as Remainers have seized control of the debate over the UK’s future relationship with the European Union.
The people voted to leave -- LEAVE.
The people voted to leave -- LEAVE.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:04 am to Parmen
The UK is practically a Bolshevist country, fulfilling predictions made by some famous bad-guys about 80 years ago. They have a totalitarian surveillance state and speech controls that would make Stalin proud.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:17 am to wmr
The British people can then elect party leaders who will make that happen. The voters do have recourse there.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:22 am to wmr
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The UK is practically a Bolshevist country, fulfilling predictions made by some famous bad-guys about 80 years ago. They have a totalitarian surveillance state and speech controls that would make Stalin proud.
Bring back Churchill and real Conservatives.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:23 am to Parmen
It really isn't a free country anymore. The powers that be have the police out looking for people who were critical of Muslim rape gangs on Fakebook because hate speech.
Not sure that there is much hope left for Western Europe. They have a large breeding population of the world's worst invasive species already in place.
Eastern Europe still stands strong.
Not sure that there is much hope left for Western Europe. They have a large breeding population of the world's worst invasive species already in place.
Eastern Europe still stands strong.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:01 pm to Parmen
Between CCTV on every corner, the criminalization of anything perceived to be offensive speech and white British no longer constituting a majority of the population in Greater London, Leicester, Luton and Slough, there isn't much great about Great Britain anymore. Even those opposed to massive Muslim immigration are largely Labour voters who think the government owes them a job, a certain wage and massive benefits.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:06 pm to Parmen
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Because the vote to leave the EU is not legally binding, the UK could remain in the EU. It's up to Parliament to decide whether to make the vote law or not.
Because the vote to leave the EU is not legally binding, the UK could remain in the EU. It's up to Parliament to decide whether to make the vote law or not.
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Could MPs block an EU exit?
Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs in the current Parliament - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying? The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act. The withdrawal agreement also has to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report.
So in theory they could block the UK's EU exit. But in practice that is seen as very unlikely given that a majority of people voted for Brexit in the referendum.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:13 pm to Kentucker
quote:Parliament already voted to ratify the Brexit vote's results last year.
It's up to Parliament to decide whether to make the vote law or not.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:15 pm to Parmen
Farage said if it was 52% there might need to be a second referendum.
Personally I'm against a second vote because I want £350m a week for the NHS.
Personally I'm against a second vote because I want £350m a week for the NHS.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:16 pm to Parmen
quote:Do you have a link for that claim? I can't find anything near what you're saying. Thanks.
Remainers have seized control of the debate over the UK’s future relationship with the European Union.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:19 pm to bluestem75
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The British people can then elect party leaders who will make that happen. The voters do have recourse there.
It's not a rule that British people get to elect the party leaders, Miliband won based on trade union votes not member votes and Michael Howard became tory leader with no vote at all. Those who aren't party members from the leading party have no say in who the PM will be outside of voting for their local MP.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:20 pm to Parmen
The election was hacked by disinformation campaigns right up to Election Day (sound familiar?)
The only people who voted to leave are senior citizens who will never be around to reap the damage they have sewn on the country.
At least a revote is needed to ensure people vote on the actual merits and facts of a potential BREXIT, or an overturn through the House.
As far as it even concerns us in the US, BREXIT will be bad for trade, trust me.
The only people who voted to leave are senior citizens who will never be around to reap the damage they have sewn on the country.
At least a revote is needed to ensure people vote on the actual merits and facts of a potential BREXIT, or an overturn through the House.
As far as it even concerns us in the US, BREXIT will be bad for trade, trust me.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:23 pm to RFK
quote:Typical totalitarian thinking.
At least a revote is needed to ensure people vote on the actual merits and facts of a potential BREXIT, or an overturn through the House.
"We'll keep voting until we get the result we want.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:23 pm to LSURussian
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Parliament already voted to ratify the Brexit vote's results last year.
That means they accepted the vote happened, not that they can't turn back. Parliament is sovereign and there's no (codified) constitution. Even if a law is passed saying no turning back, another law could overturn that.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:25 pm to RFK
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disinformation campaigns
Like the massive and ongoing dem disinformation campaign on trump?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:26 pm to RFK
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The only people who voted to leave are senior citizens
Huh?
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trust me
GTFO with this bullshite.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:27 pm to ShortyRob
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Typical totalitarian thinking.
"We'll keep voting until we get the result we want.
Only 10% of people wanted a full brexit including withdrawal from the EEC/EEA before the vote. A "how do you like your brexit in the morning” vote would be the most democratic thing, but whatever was the most pro-EU option would easily win, and the "I don't care if we frick the economy up we need control of fruit policy" types could never accept that.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:29 pm to Hog Zealot
The demographics of pro Brexit voters is overwhelmingly white and age 40 plus.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 12:31 pm to RFK
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The only people who voted to leave are senior citizens who will never be around to reap the damage they have sewn on the country.
You're a fool. The working class, Labour voters in Northern England and the East Midlands and the conservative strongholds in East Anglia and the West Country are why Brexit happened.
The establishment of all political parties save UKIP, the BBC, the banks and the monied interests all supported Remain and they still lost. If there was an effort to rig this vote, it wasn't by the Leave campaign. But because they didn't vote the way you thought they'd be told to, you want another revote.
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