I have absolutely no qualms about using two factions against each other. Ant pile strategy. The more they fight each other, the less time they have to ruin our lives.

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Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:41 pm to Squirrelmeister

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No you idiot, it is born “from above” (Greek: anothen). Nicodemus says how can an old person be born again… would one have to re enter the womb? Jesus is like no no not born again, born from above. Look at the context. Anothen in Greek can be “again” or “from above” and Jesus is explicitly saying it’s not again but from above.

What’s the theological difference in born from above and born again? Hint: it’s Jack/shite.

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Posted by Squirrelmeister

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Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:48 pm to Revelator

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For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
This is right. And Jesus fulfilled the entire law when he died on the cross, said it’s was finished, and the veil in the temple was split in two.

So you’re saying heaven and earth were destroyed, right?

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Posted by Squirrelmeister

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Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:53 pm to the808bass

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What’s the theological difference in born from above and born again? Hint: it’s Jack/shite.

Well that “anothen” Greek word that can have two meanings… there is not Aramaic equivalent word with a double meaning much less one that can mean “from above” or “again”.

So for one, the conversation being described never happened. They wouldn’t have been conversing in Greek, rather Aramaic.

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