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re: Trying to stop child trafficking is now "Qanon-adjacent" and "paranoid"

Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:31 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:31 am to
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Well Tim Ballard thinks children are being used as adenochrome factories, and that's as Q as it gets.

I made it 17 (kek) pages as a spectator before needing to weigh in.

Please cite any specific posts from Q where Q mentions "adrenochrome".

A few minor points for clarification:

* 'Qanon' only exists in the world of the MSM and their happily-parroting following. It is a strawman construct that the media and blue check intelligentsia use to tamp down moral outrage at the awful things being done by powerful people.

*They have done the same thing with the "insurrection" nonsense from the events at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. They deem certain topics as radioactive then sling the mud on anything they wish to be ignored/discounted. They hope labeling something 'Qanon' will make it undesirable, and thereby unattended.

*That 'Qanon' strawman is based on deliberate conflation of Things Anons Discuss on Social Media & 8kun As They Ponder the Implication of Q's Posts with What Q Actually Said.

*In the world of Ben Collins, Mike Rothschild and the totality of MediaMatters and the rest of the legacy media, those two above things are one in the same, and are gleefully portrayed as such because they know that the average American is still incorrectly assuming that when they turn on their nightly news, they are receiving factual information, not carefully-crafted editorial content designed to support the uniparty (and globalist) agenda.

*The fact that the MSM is working overtime to portray Sound of Freedom as "Qanon-adjacent" tells you everything you need to know about how much of a light this film seeks to shine on the reprehensible plight of human trafficking.

*If you think the events in the movie are bad, anyone remotely interested in stopping this evil should look into the events in Haiti following the 2010 earthquake, specifically the role the Clinton Foundation played in relief efforts and what the statistics on missing children after the "help" arrived.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:34 am to
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Roger, literally nobody has argued that homeless teens aren't ending up in prostitution.


You don't even know what youre arguing at this point.

Human trafficking is real, its a major problem and youre hung up because of suburban moms on facebook who over amplify the issue.

One day you will be able to admit you cant keep an argument on track, you spend days confusing yourself. Youre wanting to show up these horrid rednecks, but they
re flexing all over you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:36 am to
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*The fact that the MSM is working overtime to portray Sound of Freedom as "Qanon-adjacent"


SFP is their target audience...
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:37 am to
Seems like this basic discussion has come up before - in some prominent places:

quote:

When told by a reporter about the central premise of the QAnon theory — a belief that Mr. Trump is saving the world from a satanic cult made up of pedophiles and cannibals connected to Democratic Party figures, so-called deep-state actors and Hollywood celebrities — Mr. Trump did not question the validity of the movement or the truth of those claims.

Instead, he offered his help.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing?” the president said lightly, responding to a reporter who asked if he could support that theory. “If I can help save the world from problems, I am willing to do it. I’m willing to put myself out there.


https://archive.is/cec6h
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:42 am to
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Mike Rothschild
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:14 am to
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who are the pedo sympathizers in here?

No one
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:21 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:23 am to
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Please cite any specific posts from Q where Q mentions "adrenochrome".

QAnon is more than just posts by Q. It's an online community.

A better question is posts/comments about adrenochrome from people who follow Q. Agreed?

quote:

* 'Qanon' only exists in the world of the MSM and their happily-parroting following.

It exists on this board and was even moreso during the original craze. This board was literally one of the biggest QAnon discussions on the entire internet. We had a whole thread about it.

quote:

That 'Qanon' strawman is based on deliberate conflation of Things Anons Discuss on Social Media & 8kun As They Ponder the Implication of Q's Posts with What Q Actually Said.

Again, the term "QAnon" is about the community, not Q.

You actually agreed with this in the above quote (using the term "Anons").

quote:

The fact that the MSM is working overtime to portray Sound of Freedom as "Qanon-adjacent" tells you everything you need to know about how much of a light this film seeks to shine on the reprehensible plight of human trafficking.

I agree this has been a very effective marketing campaign for people who dishonestly claim QAnon isn't real.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:26 am to
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QAnon is more than just posts by Q. It's an online community.


No, it's really not, but thanks for buying everything your friendly, neighborhood blue check is selling. They appreciate your mindshare.

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Again, the term "QAnon" is about the community, not Q.

You've also proven the conflation point, so thanks for that. That you don't understand the difference speaks volume.
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This board was literally one of the biggest QAnon discussions on the entire internet. We had a whole thread about it.

OMG, really???! That must've been amazing.

This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:27 am to
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I agree this has been a very effective marketing campaign for people who dishonestly claim QAnon isn't real.


Oh its real but totally unrelated to this movie.

The marketers have nailed you down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:28 am to
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No, it's really not

OK

So what label do you want to use for the community around the Q phenomenon ?

I'm fine with using something other than QAnon, so you pick.

quote:

but thanks for buying everything your friendly, neighborhood blue check is selling.

Dude. I saw this community and their theorizing/claims on this very board. I was even threatened with banning confronting them in real time. This was before any blue check even knew what was going on.

*ETA: I've been making the same arguments about the same CTs since before Q even existed, also (even specifically with respect to domestic child sex trafficking in the US)
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:35 am to
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Dude. I saw this community and their theorizing/claims on this very board.



quote:

I was even threatened with banning confronting them in real time.

That must have been very difficult for you. Are you all right, now?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:35 am to
So what label do you want to use for the community around the Q phenomenon ?

I'm fine with using something other than QAnon, so you pick.

Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:37 am to
The first step would be differentiating between Q and shite Anons Choose to Discuss Among Themselves.

ETA - Or are you one of those prime windowlickers who choose to believe the the term "Anons" didn't exist until the advent of Q? This is an important point of distinction.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 9:38 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:47 am to
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The first step would be differentiating between Q and shite Anons Choose to Discuss Among Themselves.

Why? It was the entire community.

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Or are you one of those prime windowlickers who choose to believe the the term "Anons" didn't exist until the advent of Q?

No.

The CTs at issue didn't originate with Q, either. They've been part of the zeitgeist since at least the Satanic Panic.

But, denying that there was a real Q-mmunity is being dishonest. If you don't like the label QAnon, fine. Pick another.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:16 am to
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But, denying that there was a real Q-mmunity is being dishonest.

I never said there wasn't a community that developed around the content shared by Q. Unlike many, I was often active on 8chan/kun in /QResearchGeneral when Q would post. I never waited for NeonRevolt or InTheMatrixxx to post to Twitter to tell me what Q said.

One committed boo-bird making the distinction between the Q posts themselves and what the anon community chooses to discuss is largely immaterial in the grand scheme of things. Personally, IDGAF if you dominate the conversation or leave the thread never to return.

The important step in identifying the state-sponsored mis-/disinformation campaign that is deliberately conflating the two. Why won't "professional journalists" make that distinction?

Why don't "professional journalists" talk about the substance of the posts themselves?

Better yet, why are "journalists" quick to associate PizzaGate with "Qanon", but regularly fail to acknowledge that Q's first post wasn't until 11 months after the shooting incident at Comet Ping-Pong?

Why can't they talk about the tenets of PizzaGate (or Q for that matter) without injecting editorial content into the reporting?


From CNN article covering the shooting at CPP, Dec. 5, 2016

This story has little to do with Q or anons, or anything else "Qanon-adjacent". It does have everything to do with journalistic malpractice, however.

They have an agenda to convey, and they're going to employ every dirty trick at their disposal to make sure it's communicated exactly the way they're directed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:23 am to
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Better yet, why are "journalists" quick to associate PizzaGate with "Qanon", but regularly fail to acknowledge that Q's first post wasn't until 11 months after the shooting incident at Comet Ping-Pong?

Do you want an answer? Or was that rhetorical?

It ties into the same issues with the creative team behind the movie so it's even on-topic.

It's why I have a copy/paste question that posters are too scared to respond to honestly, for some reason.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:24 am to
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I never said there wasn't a community that developed around the content shared by Q.

Then let me know what label you want to use. It matters not to me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:34 am to
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I saw this community and their theorizing/claims on this very board. I


You just can't realize youre on the other side of the coin. Q is like red meat to you.

Youve taken illogical stances because you don't want to be wrong. You know youre wrong, youre just dug in.

Stop being a simp and reacting with low impulse control at the letter Q
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:36 am to
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Q is like red meat to you.

Actually, SRA is.

quote:

Youve taken illogical stances because you don't want to be wrong. You know youre wrong, youre just dug in.

You're rambling, Rog.

We are having an honest and legitimate conversation and you're interjecting rambling, incoherent, ad hom attacks.
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