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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:38 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:i'm pretty sure this is not true and i'm also pretty sure you would be unable to substantiate your assertion
And for every one of these anecdotes, there's one that is just the opposite
quote:good thing they appear to be willing to take a hit for the good of the country which means they are supporting trump despite the policy affecting their wallet
I don't think losing any percentage of that vote bodes well for trump
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:39 pm to dcbl
quote:this is the point i keep making to npc90 et al. they don't care because orange man bad and gdp asperger's
the prevailing attitude is that this should have been done a long time ago
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:44 pm to Golfer
quote:the maps that i have seen suggest this is completely false
the idea that Trump won because of a major surge in rural support may not hold up
quote:"few" is subjective. "enough" is what happened
Very few counties in the swing states (WI, MI, PA, OH, NC, FL) flipped to Trump in 2016
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:45 pm to bfniii
quote:
i'm pretty sure this is not true and i'm also pretty sure you would be unable to substantiate your assertion
I could link more examples than the OP Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:46 pm to Golfer
quote:what do you mean by "gains"? it was his first election. there was no prior election to compare it to
Trumps biggest gains
quote:trump won a surprising number of female and hispanic votes so, i'm not sure what you mean by "drastically" because that was a huge surprise
The rural landscape didn't change drastically from 2012 to 2016
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:47 pm to bmy
quote:the eternal "what if" from libs.
Take that welfare away from them and it would get ugly
farmers know this is a temporary trade war. taking away the welfare means the us is probably in a more advantageous trading situation internationally. but whatever you do, don't mention that
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:52 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:you can link a million anecdotes but it wouldn't help you refute the fact that the economy is doing well despite the trade war so, checkmate
I could link more examples than the OP
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:58 pm to bfniii
quote:Ask the farmers how their economy is doing
it wouldn't help you refute the fact that the economy is doing well despite the trade war
Good thing we're about to line their pockets with more "aid"
Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:21 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:uh, it's great. what kind of stupid comment is that. "their" economy is the us economy.
Ask the farmers how their economy is doing
quote:as i've said many times, there was pain over the trade imbalance already and i think reasonable, well informed people know this. they're glad that someone is FINALLY addressing it. i'm sorry this doesn't square with your political persuasion
Good thing we're about to line their pockets with more "aid"
Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:47 pm to bfniii
quote:Absolutely, every single one
they're glad that someone is FINALLY addressing it.
Except the ones who aren't happy at all, and think the policies that are hurting their bottom line are bad
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:13 pm to bfniii
quote:
what do you mean by "gains"? it was his first election. there was no prior election to compare it to
Figured the context was clear...Trump's biggest gains when compared to Romney in 2012.
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trump won a surprising number of female and hispanic votes so, i'm not sure what you mean by "drastically" because that was a huge surprise
Again. The context was centered on the comparison between Romney (21% rural votes) vs. Trump (22% rural). Thus, the rural landscape didn't change drastically for the republican candidate.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:23 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:and this has been addressed many times over the last few weeks. they are being myopic.
Except the ones who aren't happy at all, and think the policies that are hurting their bottom line are bad
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:34 pm to CelticDog
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He's bribing them so they are not ruined by his trade war.
If the "bribes" are subsidies funded with tariff revenue and the net result is a more favorable trade deal with China, what negative was there to the strategy?
If you disagree with this strategy, how would you negotiate with China?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:43 pm to Muthsera
quote:Except they aren't
If the "bribes" are subsidies funded with tariff revenue
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:45 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:link? besides, what difference does it make anyway. fact 1 - trump is trying to address ip theft by a military adversary. fact 2 - the economy is not suffering despite the trade war. those two facts mean that everything ib and npc90 say is irrelevant. 90 is more concerned about the price of washing machines than national security and ib won't take my calls
Except they aren't
Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:03 am to dcbl
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there's little indication Trump is paying a political price.
Do we even midterm anymore?
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