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re: Trump's budget is $2.7T in spending cuts, promises to erase deficit in 15 years
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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The budget would increase military spending
:sigh:
Boeing has to produce the F-15X to makeup for the shortfall of F-35 production and the Navy is building new frigates because the LCS is basically an expensive arse yacht with machine guns.
Ike was right.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:20 pm to TOKEN
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We have a revenue problem and those tax cuts are a big reason why the deficit grew.
Government has a SPENDING problem. It's unfricking real that this has to be explained to adults.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:21 pm to stuntman
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Government has a SPENDING problem. It's unfricking real that this has to be explained to adults.
So whose to blame?
Trumps proposed budget is $4.7 trillion
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:23 pm to TOKEN
The ignorant who are allowed to vote.
I've said plenty of times in here that we need poll tests BAD.
Also, what does blame have to do w/ you not understanding that it's a spending problem, not a "revenue" (as if government earns anything) problem.
I've said plenty of times in here that we need poll tests BAD.
Also, what does blame have to do w/ you not understanding that it's a spending problem, not a "revenue" (as if government earns anything) problem.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:25 pm to stuntman
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The ignorant who are allowed to vote.
I've said plenty of times in here that we need poll tests BAD.
Also, what does blame have to do w/ you not understanding that it's a spending problem, not a "revenue" (as if government earns anything) problem.
Hey I know we have a spending problem. But there is also the anticipation of a growth problem or revenue.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:26 pm to Jjdoc
I see your anger but both opinions are right. We do have a revenue problem. Not enough revenue generating people left in the states.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:28 pm to TOKEN
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Hey I know we have a spending problem. But there is also the anticipation of a growth problem or revenue.
Couldn't disagree more. Token, what in the world gives you the confidence that politicians spend our money wisely?
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:32 pm to TOKEN
Numbers? Is that what you call those brown tator tots that’ll come out your arse?
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:34 pm to TOKEN
quote:Funny how this wasn’t irresponsible to so many in 2013.
This is irresponsible
The budget foresees a $1.1 trillion deficit in 2019, 2020, and 2021, and a $1 trillion deficit in 2022
quote:That’s actually not a huge growth given the portion of spending that’s jon-discretionary (debt service and entitlements). We can’t reduce debt service and no one wants to SS and Medicare.
ETA: Forcasts show 2.3% growth in 2019 while the Trump Budget anticipates 3.1% growth
No president current nor future will meaninglfully reduce spending until voters demand massive cuts to SS and Medicare or tripling their own taxes.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:34 pm to Jjdoc
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Obamacare will be replaced by grants subsidising health insurance that will be allocated among the states.
Is this the Lindsay Graham plan from the last repeal and replace disaster? Because I thought this was a fair compromise.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:36 pm to stuntman
quote:ultimately this is what needs to change.
The greedy who are allowed to vote.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:37 pm to Taxing Authority
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Funny how this wasn’t irresponsible to so many in 2013.
It’s always been a concern of mine.
Republicans have lost their way. Spending only matters when the Democrats are in control it seems.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:38 pm to Taxing Authority
Nah.
Everyone is greedy. Not everyone understands the role of government in society.
Everyone is greedy. Not everyone understands the role of government in society.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:38 pm to BoneDrownedDave
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hard power (invading countries and farting around there for years).
Better question. Why do we do this? Not doing anything is cheaper and easier than both soft and hard power.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:39 pm to TOKEN
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Republicans have lost their way. Spending only matters when the Democrats are in control it seems.
On this, we 100% agree.
Republicans haven't been serious about cutting government down to size since Coolidge.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:41 pm to Taxing Authority
it is huge when you compound it over time. Missing assumptions over growth affect the debt servicing costs even more. It compounds them. I thought yall were conservatives.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:41 pm to stuntman
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Couldn't disagree more. Token, what in the world gives you the confidence that politicians spend our money wisely?
They don’t, I have never said the government spends our money wisely once in my life. There are basic functions the government is needed for then it becomes a giant problem. For instance, SS was never meant to be used as a retirement system. I was reading the other day we have a $36 trillion donut hole in SS starting from 2026 to 2075. There is no mechanism in place to pay for it.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:41 pm to TOKEN
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Government has a SPENDING problem. It's unfricking real that this has to be explained to adults.
Trump tax cuts cost roughly $150 billion per year. Entitlement spending costs roughly $1.9trillion per year.
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So whose to blame?
The dumbass democrats that will not let us reform entitlements.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:45 pm to WeeWee
Trump should have gone infrastructure instead of tax cuts in my opinion
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:46 pm to TOKEN
quote:I was careful not to accuse you.
It’s always been a concern of mine.
quote:Yeah, but it’s silly because of voter demand. Even when Obama was in the WH Democrats kept saying “why aren’t republicans responsibly trying to cut the budget”. The burden of responsibility always falls to the republicans —who are expected to make the choices they are so unpopular the only result will be for them to be voted out of office.
Republicans have lost their way. Spending only matters when the Democrats are in control it seems.
Then what do you have?
A bunch of democrats with no opposition. Win for democrats. And hey sire as hell won’t magically become fiscally responsible.
Look, I get it. There’s plenty of blame to go around. But our government is functioning exactly as intended. Both republican and Democrat voters love entitlements. There Is huge bipartisan support for those programs. Neither side is going to cut them.
Look what happened to GWB when he tried to reform SS. He got roasted not just by democrats (as expected) but tby his own Party as well. It effectively finished off his presidency.
The real problem is “us”-the voters demanding continued and increasing more spending.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 9:48 pm
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