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re: Trump will sign Executive Order Mandating Voter ID

Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:39 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:39 am to
They force you to have an id to get on a plane. You even have to have the Real ID now. So what’s the difference if you need it to vote?

Don’t you think that it’s just as important?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39832 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:41 am to
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And this is the end result with pumping emotions (primarily fear) to create a polarized worldview.


For you To think there are any other options besides the left and right is evidence you aren’t as smart as you think. Not even close. I was once dumb enough to think like you.
Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:42 am to
This is the solution to the problem and reaction that was engineered.

If you think the whole Sleepy Joe thing and the open border situation and the total absurdity of the mail in ballots and election chaos wasn’t a part of the plan for what will eventually be a digital ID system with biometric tracking among all kinds of other technocratic treats then you are lost in the dialectics that rule and control society.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39832 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:43 am to
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If the EO establishes that POTUS can direct elections by capricious EOs , you haven’t defeated the evil. You’ve empowered it, as soon as the next guy gets in.


The left is going to do that either way, so this isn’t a good point at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:05 am to
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They force you to have an id to get on a plane. You even have to have the Real ID now.


When did states have the authority to regulate air travel?

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So what’s the difference if you need it to vote?

Our Constitution and the way our system has worked since the Founding.

And any potential federal regulation requires Congress, not an EO.

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Don’t you think that it’s just as important?

That's irrelevant to the discussion being had.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:06 am to
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The left is going to do that either way

Why haven't they?

We had 12 years of Obama and Biden and nothing like this was proposed via EO.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39832 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:10 am to
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Why haven't they? We had 12 years of Obama and Biden and nothing like this was proposed via EO.


Progress takes time. They are more desperate and dangerous than ever now.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21559 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:10 am to
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If the EO establishes that POTUS can direct elections by capricious EOs , you haven’t defeated the evil. You’ve empowered it, as soon as the next guy gets in.

If voter ID can be required by EO, it can be banned by EO


Huh???? Lol
The EO will have to approved by Congress and made law, as the federal election laws that already exist and states must abide by.
Also, this EO is an additional step towards ensuring states follow the already existing law that on citizens can vote in federal elections.
The intention is to strengthen election integrity, not weaken it.
Removing safeguards in federal elections (as your example suggests) would do the opposite.

The federal government can establish federal election laws/guidelines and they states choose how to administer them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:11 am to
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Progress takes time.


So the defense of this is saying Trump needs to act like a Democrat, but not even actual Democrats, the future, more evil version of Democrats that don't exist now.

In what world of logic does that make sense for "conservatives"?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:13 am to
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The EO will have to approved by Congress and made law



...that's not how EOs work

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Removing safeguards in federal elections (as your example suggests) would do the opposite.

If this EO is judged as legal and proper, then it permits that removal via EO in the future. That's what he's saying.

Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 7:46 am to
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They force you to have an id to get on a plane. You even have to have the Real ID now. So what’s the difference if you need it to vote?



You don’t need a Real ID to fly if you have a passport or passport card. You also don’t need to allow your photo to be taken at TSA, you can simply decline and nothing is made of it.

Informing you of this isn’t the reasons I’m replying to your post.

The concern is the Real ID is a prequel to digital ID’s.

It’s important people understand what type of world we accelerate toward with digital ID’s. Biometric tracking, blockchain record of everything you do, iris scanning, concepts like tokens that expire, social credit and so on.

We are seeing this technocratic agenda move forward thanks to the way they use dialectics.

The circus that is our voting system and the infinitely absurd Sleepy Joe years regarding the border are things that are baked into this designed outcome of good citizens allowing and even welcoming changes that they otherwise wouldn’t.
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