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re: Trump supporters: how do you reconcile “muh Russia”

Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:44 am to
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:44 am to
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Trump supporters: how do you reconcile “muh Russia”


Have Hillary give Russia back the millions and have Putin give back our Uranium
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59711 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:46 am to
"Muh Russia" is a fringe conspiracy theory by the Left to make themselves feel better about losing. It was HER turn!!!

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In the 2014 book “American Conspiracy Theories,” political scientists Joseph Uscinski and Joseph Parent said that conspiracy theories appealed to the powerless as a way to explain their defeats. In a democracy that regularly gave losers a chance to gain power, however, the winning side would abandon conspiracy beliefs when they gained power. In short, Uscinski and Parent wrote: “Conspiracy theories are for losers.”


You lost. Your rage-fueled right brain can't wrap itself around that fact. Don't worry, neither can HRC.

#MuhRussians wasn't supposed to be wielded against DJT when he won, they knew that would never happen, because even THEY know that there's nothing to attempt to prove that any concerted efforts by Russia did so much as influence a single vote.

You're missing the bigger picture here: She never thought she'd lose, so the Steele Dossier and the entire #RussiaRussiaRussia was intended on being the punishment meted down to Trump for deigning to challenge HRC in the first place. HER DoJ, with HER FBI were going to make every effort to ruin Trump professionally, financially and personally.

Except that's not what the American people believed in.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:47 am to
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Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15679 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:47 am to
If they could define meddling as something more than buying a bunch of Facebook ads, I might be more interested.
Posted by BamaFinland
Espoo, Finland
Member since Oct 2015
2587 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:47 am to
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Trump supporters: how do you reconcile “muh Russia”


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64288 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:51 am to
You asked nothing and assumed everything. Silly waste of a thread.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48301 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:52 am to
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How do you reconcile this?


The level of meddling being reported is releasing the DNC’s own words to the public and putting a minimal amount of ads on a global forum.

That’s basically nothing in comparison to what we and other countries do all the time.

Furthermore, so far there is no evidence that Trump or his campaign was involved.

The silence from the left was deafening when prior to the election George Soros and other European organizations were flooding money into the US to register people to vote for Hillary.

Th silence from the left was deafening for four years while Hillary Clinton personally enriched herself by selling access to the Office or Secretary of State.

But now, all of sudden, foreign influence on American politics is a big deal.

Everyone is a hypocrite; the left is just the most extreme.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5691 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:53 am to
Because every country does it.

It made no difference in the outcome of the election. Russians were not holding folks at gun point giving them to vote for Trump.

Trump nor his campaign colluded with Russia.

Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and IC colluded and spied on an opposing party’s candidate and there is no outrage.

Why should we care, if the left doesn’t?
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7712 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:54 am to
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How do you reconcile this?


How do YOU reconcile all the illegal aliens voting for Hillary in our election?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28227 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:56 am to
Hmm maybe the complete absence of any evidence or even indication whatsoever that Trump was in any way related to the actions of any election-hacking Russians???

You fricking idiot.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16075 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:57 am to
How do you reconcile Michael Obama having a wang?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:58 am to
Russia has meddled in every election since the 1950s, as well as working to weaponize the political left.

It was all cool until Trump beat Hillary.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59711 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:58 am to
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How do you reconcile this?


How do you reconcile the fact that the DNC duped over half of its voters by letting them think that Crazy Uncle Bernie might actually stand a chance at earning the nomination, then pulled the rug out from under them with Enron-levels of shadiness?

"SuperDelegates"???

There's your collusion to defraud American voters.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32605 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:58 am to
Meddling? In that case take us to DEFCON 1 and get the launch keys ready!
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:59 am to
muh meddling
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 6:59 am to
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DEG


Your inability to grasp the entire picture and see the "Russian meddling" for what it is, is mind boggling.

I'm truly interested in how people like you make it through life.

For instance, If you worked for me, I'd simply have to fire you. Based on your beliefs alone regarding the 2016 election and it's "external" factors. I couldn't have a programmer like you responsible for writing code on system involving millions of dollars. Your judgement is too narrow and your cognitive ability seems on par with special needs child.

On a side note, his own intelligence is a joke. Just ask W where those WMD's are hiding.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67736 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:00 am to
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If they could define meddling as something more than buying a bunch of Facebook ads


Which is nothing more than a form of speech.

And SCOTUS has ruled that the 1st Amendment applies to non-citizens too.

So it seems to me that this Russian 'meddling' is perfectly legal and protected by the Constitution.

What would you have us do? Abolish free speech?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42548 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:04 am to
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Intelligence had been clear that Russia meddled in the 2016 and that they are actively meddling in mid terms.


To what extent??

Is this some sort of 'human rights' level transgression that we must upturn our way of life to eliminate?

Teenage boys look up girls' skirts. Should we outlaw skirts? Should we put blinders on teenage boys? Or should we accept it for what it is and educate both boys and girls as to proper dress and decorum?

To say "meddling" is silly - either quantify it and provide the dire consequence of it - with concrete examples - or just vow to deal with it.

Aside from the feeble attempts by foreign agents to gain access to registration data bases, buying 200K worth of ads on facebook doesn't seem like much 'meddling.' The DNC were incompetent in the protection of their servers and outside agents gained access to them. Then refused the FBI access to help them defend against the intrusions. Seems like an in-house problem that they can - and should - rectify on their own or suffer the consequences. One tactic might be to keep criminal behavior from being recorded on your servers. Maybe not engage in malicious activity to begin with.

THis whole falderal is equivalent to blaming the flooding of your house during a storm in NJ on the fact that a group of teenagers on spring break pissed in the Gulf of Mexico down in Texas. Therefore, must put teenagers in jail and reinforce GOM patrols to prevent pissing.

Makes entirely no sense.

Worried about shady stuff being exposed? --- don't do shady stuff to begin with.

Worried about lies being told during the political process? ---- start at home with the BCC, Hollywood, academe, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, labor unions, and other DEMOCRAT party apparatchiks.

This is the biggest nothing-burger ever foisted - and it only survives by the seditious activates from the deep-state.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27072 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:08 am to
What I have trouble reconciling is the fact had Hillary won this "muh Russia" would not have been an issue. We would have NEVER heard a peep about it. Why is that?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 8/3/18 at 7:12 am to
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calling his own intelligence a hoax.


You mean the likes of John Brennan, James Clapper, and James Comey? Yea, how could anyone not trust these stalwarts of truth and honesty?
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