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re: Trump says he does not care about auto prices increase
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:32 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:32 pm to Taxing Authority
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Yeah, I havent quite figured out how in the hell one can believe this.
I'm genuinely interested how they come to the conclusion. But, when they get to this point, they start talking about the person. Who'd you vote for? You're a ron bot! etc
I've reached the "youre a CCP goon" status in their little cult. I might be reaching territory only known to IB Freeman
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:36 pm to Jjdoc
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You know there is a whole history before globalism right?
Yes. And I know that the great maritime empires were built on trade. The issue isn't that we've been trading. The issue is that we sacrificed our market to outside goods in exchange for a strategic alliance that's no longer useful or necessary. We're still going to trade, we just need to make it more balanced and fair.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Through soft and pathetically weak Trade agreements, the American Economy has delivered growth and prosperity to the world, while taxing ourselves.
Trump is absolutely correct on this.
This forum is something with how binary it is. I'm sure plenty here do not understand how one can be for some tariffs but also against a flat 25% on foreign assembled cars and foreign parts in domestically assembled cars.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:42 pm to Tantal
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And I know that the great maritime empires were built on trade.
Mostly bringing commerce to the home country from their colonies. Not really the same as today.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:44 pm to BuckyCheese
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Trump is absolutely correct on this.
Hes simplistic and ignores the other side of the ledger.
What Trump needs is a much weaker dollar, then we may have trade surpluses.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hes simplistic and ignores the other side of the ledger.
What Trump needs is a much weaker dollar, then we may have trade surpluses.
Nothing changes the fact other countries tariffed us while we did not tariff them to any degree. As much as you like to claim it, that is not free trade.
Since you bring up the strong dollar, the fact other countries tariffed US products while they were already inherently more expensive would seem to ask why they tariffed at all, other than to prevent US products from competing in their marketplace.
You claiming simplistic is laughable.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:53 pm to BuckyCheese
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Nothing changes the fact other countries tariffed us while we did not tariff them to any degree.
Thats how you hurt your own consumers and protect the inefficient industry.
I'd prefer us not do that
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats how you hurt your own consumers and protect the inefficient industry.
I'd prefer us not do that
And only illustrates the fact you are incapable of looking at the long range, big picture.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:00 pm to BuckyCheese
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And only illustrates the fact you are incapable of looking at the long range, big picture.
Quite the canned, generic meaningless reply.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:00 pm to Mr Cell Phone
Had my same cars for years. The cars I'm interested in are from the 60s and 70s. Not really concerned with miles.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:14 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:Tariffs are awesome when:
This forum is something with how binary it is. I'm sure plenty here do not understand how one can be for some tariffs but also against a flat 25% on foreign assembled cars and foreign parts in domestically assembled cars.
- you have a weak currency
- you have an excess supply of labor
- the good you are tariffing is close enough in COGS that importers cannot simply pass along the tariff to buyers
- you have excess capacity of the good or services you are tariffing
I can't think of a single thing that applies to for the US without a mid three-digit tariff.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What Trump needs is a much weaker dollar, then we may have trade surpluses.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. So why not just devalue the dollar ?
LINK America's $175 trillion problem
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:22 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:You are exactly right on this. So, the question is why should you introduce inflation, negate the benefits of having a strong currency, make goods more expensive and reduce the effeciency of your economy over a meaningless tariff imposed by other countries?
Since you bring up the strong dollar, the fact other countries tariffed US products while they were already inherently more expensive would seem to ask why they tariffed at all, other than to prevent US products from competing in their marketplace.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:20 pm to Mr Cell Phone
He doesn’t care about regular Americans at all
Posted on 3/30/25 at 9:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You must be a liberal.
Thats their precise belief
Taxes and tariffs are not the same, no matter how many times you try to tell yourself otherwise.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:04 am to imjustafatkid
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Taxes and tariffs are not the same,
Are tariffs not a tax on foreign goods?
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Are tariffs not a tax on foreign goods?
You are free to call them that if you wish. No one is going to stop you.
The difference, obviously, is that Trump's tariffs bring more jobs into the USA by forcing companies to build here. We saw this happen during his first term, and it's already started happening in this term. More jobs, less illegals to fill them...it's hard not to see how this works, yet you still claim you can't understand it.
We all know the real reason you hate this: you rely on imports for your career field. You are selfish, and only care about yourself, not the betterment of the country, so you feign ignorance and ask stupid questions like the quote above. It's transparent.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:25 am to imjustafatkid
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You are free to call them that if you wish. No one is going to stop you.
Thats presicely what it is, chief.
You, changing the meaning does nothing. Its a tax. Period.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:28 am to burke985
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TARRIFS is what they will blame it on ....
Tariffs ARE what they'll blame it on, and rightly so.
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats presicely what it is, chief.
You, changing the meaning does nothing. Its a tax. Period.
There you go again. Missing the forest for the trees. Not really, I know you're just trying to derail and deflect because you only care about your own self and couldn't care less about the betterment of our nation.
Do you think it's a good idea to make yourself look stupid by pretending you can't follow a conversation? Are you really so stupid that you can't understand that, in the discussion of tariffs and taxation, "taxes" and "tariffs" refer to two completely different things?
Is that really how stupid you want us to all believe you are? So dumb you can't recognize the need to differentiate the two in said conversation? You need definitions laid out for you in every OP?
It's hard to imagine anyone relying on you to complete any critical task if you can't even exhibit this trivial level of critical thinking skills.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 8:32 am
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