re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped win

You're claiming career service folks who probably devote considerably more time to their jobs than other federal employees and who sacrifice their families, other relationships, more valuable private sector positions, etc. in service to their country are the "worst"?

Yeah, that's fricking stupid.

TECHNICALLY, the Bush administration said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Also, it was the 12th CLOSEST election based on EC percentages. Heck, Obama won both of his by bigger margins.

It's amazing to watch people who have absolutely no fricking clue what they're talking about make claims with such confidence.

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The CIA is so fricked-up and infiltrated with far left wing progressive socialists and communists these days I seriously doubt they could pull off the assassination of a third world cartel drug kingpin much less a sitting POTUS.

The CIA needs to have its house cleaned of the bleeding heart ivy league intellectual elitists who have thrown the agency out of balance ... Langley has been diluted over the past twenty years. True patriots and men of honor with this country's best interests are no longer running the show.

Trump needs to get it back on track and serving the purpose they were designed to serve.

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Holy shite this is beautiful. Amazing.

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Wow, that's a very weak response. I expected more from camp Trump.

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Would "suck that Trump dick liberals!" been more appropriate for you?

Now run along to your safe space and go play with your coloring books and playdough

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No. I'm claiming that many of the goals and operations that the CIA have pursued over the years are the worst. I have made no claims about the personal character or personal veracity of individual agents. I simply view the CIA as a corrupt organization that operates independent of American interests, but instead acts in the interest of the agency.

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First, the amount of activity by the US IC that constitutes a departure from the respective administrations controlling it is miniscule. Blame the decision makers first and foremost.

Second, questioning an organization build on deception is fine. But it's senseless to ignore the absolutely unbelievable effort CIA officers have made in the past 2 decades in efforts to protect citizens, troops and American interests. Misguided at times? Certainly. But that can very rarely be blamed predominately on CIA or any intelligence agency in isolation.

I don't think you're stupid. But plenty of people ignore that behind the letters there are thousands of folks who have put their families, careers and sometimes lives on the line to do what the country has asked them to do.

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First, the amount of activity by the US IC that constitutes a departure from the respective administrations controlling it is miniscule. Blame the decision makers first and foremost.

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I want this to be true. Perhaps I'm just buying the worst information bandied about. But I've read many, many reports of some reeeeaaaal shady shite they've been involved in, particularly re: narcotics and Western Hemisphere governance. I'm more than willing to be proven a fool for believing what I've read, but so far no apologetics exist.

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But it's senseless to ignore the absolutely unbelievable effort CIA officers have made in the past 2 decades in efforts to protect citizens, troops and American interests. Misguided at times? Certainly. But that can very rarely be blamed predominately on CIA or any intelligence agency in isolation.

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As I said, I do not denigrate the contributions of rank and file clandestine officers or even office workers. I have little doubt that >95% of CIA operatives/employees only do their work because they believe it to be the best way to preserve American values and power.

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I don't think you're stupid. But plenty of people ignore that behind the letters there are thousands of folks who have put their families, careers and sometimes lives on the line to do what the country has asked them to do.

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At the same time, just because someone joins a department with the best of intentions does not completely absolve or excuse what is done.

Please don't conflate my extreme skepticism and suspicion of alphabet soup agencies with a dislike for those who comprise their workforce.

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TECHNICALLY, the Bush administration said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

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There were ... at the time he said it.

Those WMDs are now showing up in Syria.

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Also, it was the 12th CLOSEST election based on EC percentages. Heck, Obama won both of his by bigger margins.

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All of those wins were predicted ... Trump's was not and was more reminiscent of the Truman/Dewey election complete with the wrong headlines by a major publication.

Trump shows classic signs of small penis syndrome. If his skin was any thinner he would bleed out.

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I want this to be true. Perhaps I'm just buying the worst information bandied about. But I've read many, many reports of some reeeeaaaal shady shite they've been involved in, particularly re: narcotics and Western Hemisphere governance. I'm more than willing to be proven a fool for believing what I've read, but so far no apologetics exist.

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There are very few ways for people in the intelligence community to disprove or discredit this type of stuff. But I don't object to the concept that our intelligence community has been and is involved in questionable activity relating to foreign intervention (or narcotics, weapon sales, etc).

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At the same time, just because someone joins a department with the best of intentions does not completely absolve or excuse what is done.

Please don't conflate my extreme skepticism and suspicion of alphabet soup agencies with a dislike for those who comprise their workforce.

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I get it. The intelligence community is a particularly tough subject for folks who share my/our ideals (if you lean libertarian). Moreover, holding individuals accountable for complying with a group that is heavily dependent on secrecy and internal loyalty presents a host of other issues/challenges.

From what I know, all I can say is that there are a lot of people who aren't far from myself and probably you in ideology, and who are conscious of the stuff we're discussing and take it very seriously. If we really want to attack the nebulous secrecy of the intelligence community, and the lawlessness that does exist and avoids accountability, that'll need to be expanded far beyond CIA, particularly in this age of the DNI.