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re: Trump Releases 12 Page Treatise on Election Fraud

Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:31 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:31 am to
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I'd call this a huge Red Flag


Merely one in a veritable sea of red flags, no less.

I'll debate the merits of any given point all day long with liberals when it comes to massive, demonstrable, determinative fraud in the 2020 election. What they fail to account however, is that it isn't JUST Sleepy allegedly pulling 50% more of the black vote than Obama in the blackest Metro Atlanta county.

It's that, PLUS Trump winning 18 of 19 bellweather counties.

PLUS zero enthusiasm for Sleepy in turnout

PLUS 6 states simultaneously stopping counting votes of their most populous (and coincidentally?) blue-run counties

PLUS the obvious ignoring of state election law with respect to signature matching,

PLUS ballots counted w/ postmarks after state law deadline,

PLUS batch adjudication,

PLUS massive amounts of ballots requiring adjudication outside of federal guidelines,

PLUS faked accreditation of voting machines,

PLUS internet connectivity in machines that shouldn't have them,

PLUS the discovery of duplicate hard drives in voting machines

PLUS voting machine IP logs in CO showing connectivity to AZ IP addresses on election day,

PLUS voting machine maintenance logs deleted both before & after election day

PLUS flagrant violation of state laws with respect to camera surveillance on dropboxes (100+ of 159 counties in GA)

PLUS chain of custody violations in ballot collection from dropboxes

PLUS ZERO chain of custody records for ballots in states allegedly too close to call

PLUS documents required to be retained for 22 months per state/federal law destroyed/shredded/lost

PLUS illegal consent decrees enter into by state SecState (GA) with opposition party leaders to ignore signature matching

PLUS video evidence of stacks of ballots scanned & rescanned multiple times

PLUS other shenanigans from the Ruby Freeman Urban Democracy Squad

PLUS 2000 Mules data/patterns of behavior

PLUS undesirable poll watchers thrown out of counting rooms

PLUS carboard put up in the windows

PLUS nursing home residents' ballots being harvested without their consent

PLUS 100% registered voter turnout in certain states/counties

PLUS tales of "broken pipes" at State Farm Arena that didn't have anything to do with anything re: ballot counting area, but ballots were moved anyway

It's statistically impossible when you look at the totality of the "irregularities".
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:57 am to
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Why did the peaceful demonstrators break and force their way into the building?

Why does your premise assume that all violent protesters were Trump supporters?

We had video of ANTIFA folks changing in the bushes from their blackblock garb into MAGA hats, etc.

There was video of limp-wristed soybois getting ready to leave for DC, with one crying about having to wear a red MAGA hat. "We have to blend in".
Posted by Bbobalou
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:05 am to
Vox. I don’t want you to feel I’m being argumentative or taking one side or the other.

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Why did the peaceful demonstrators break and force their way into the building?


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Why does your premise assume that all violent protesters were Trump supporters?


My statement doesn’t assume or presume the affiliation with any particular party. I won’t put words in your mouth if you’ll do the same.

Regardless of who they represent or don’t they should not have done what they did. Prosecute them if they broke the law and leave them alone if not.

But letting someone break the law for whatever reason should not be condoned. Just because I like someone doesn’t mean it’s ok.

Wouldn’t you agree?
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:33 am to
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My statement doesn’t assume or presume the affiliation with any particular party.

If we could get the Unselect Committee to agree to the same, then we'd be getting somewhere.

Their core message is that EVERYONE at the Capitol on Jan. 6 was a flag-waving, red-blooded American who supported Trump and was there with the express intent of "overthrowing the government" via "overturning the election results."

When forced to acknowledge that not everyone in attendance was a Trump supporter, then it begs the question - is it possible that some of the instigators/vandals/destructive individuals may have been ANTIFA/BLM plants? What percentage of the people in the Capitol were incited by the Ray Epps contingency who were obvious feds inserted into the crowd, encouraging violence?

Schiff and his pack of jackals have yet to address what they feel would have been the mechanism by which those at the Capitol were going to "overthrow the government" by virtue of flooding the House/Senate chambers.

What would've happened on Jan. 7? We take down all the American flags and pledge allegiance to the Sovereign state of Furhatistan?

Only 535 people in the Capitol building are elected officials. What of the rest of the appointees, the SES embeds, etc? We're to believe that a rowdy crowd of less than 1k people pissed at demonstrable, determinative election fraud were going to supplant the ENTIRE unelected governmental apparatus in the District?

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Regardless of who they represent or don’t they should not have done what they did. Prosecute them if they broke the law and leave them alone if not.


Absolutely. We haven't seen equal application of justice in so long we'd hardly recognize it if we saw it. We're definitely not seeing it in the case of the J6 detainees. They're being held as political prisoners with practically zero due process rights.

This only makes sense when you view the District of Columbia as the seat of power for an invading government which has conquered the United States.
Posted by Bbobalou
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:44 am to
Have an upvote.

I’m so disenchanted with our political system and the bullshite double standard and waste of money, time, and resources that if I could move I would. I don’t know where I’d go but…

I can’t see any way to correct the problem without a total reset. Obviously that isn’t possible. Our government is bloated with waste and corruption and just too damned big.

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:40 am to
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What was right?


Voicing displeasure with government processes which are designed to avoid hearing the voice of the people is American as apple pie.

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What was the gathering at the Capital?


It was a group of people who watched an election process be corrupted over many months to secure a specific outcome. And they weren’t happy about it. No one should be happy about it, not even Biden supporters.

It was the largest single act against our democratic Republic since our Constitution was adopted.

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Why did people try to enter knowing they couldn’t?


I am in general agreement that breaching the Capitol was not good or wise. But presenting the question the way you did ignores that a large number of protesters were invited in. Doors held open. Waved in.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:44 am to
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I can’t see any way to correct the problem without a total reset. Obviously that isn’t possible. Our government is bloated with waste and corruption and just too damned big.


Which begs the $64,000 question - if Trump talked about the Dems/DS attempts to steal the election, months and months in advance, then did he do something about it?

The casual observer would say "No, because he walked away from the White House. Joe Biden was sworn in on Jan. 20, 2021, and now we're stuck with a dementia patient until the 2024 election."

Seeking a Constitutional solution ("Get 'em in 2024!") for actions that wholly disregard the rule of law and our Constitutional processes (2020 election steal) will give you a migraine every time. Novel problems require novel solutions.
Posted by SuperNatural
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:44 am to
Seems to me there was direct involvement by the Feds to incite, instigate, and propagate the entry into the capital by any means necessary.

There was probably a small contingent of easily influenced folks who fell victim to their tactics and participates.

There was an even smaller group of genuine loonies who joined in the fun.

The vast majority were let into the building by security.

What a sham.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23829 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:45 am to


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Watergate was small potatoes compared to this. Baffled that people would put party over country and not want him to be held accountable


Hillary's Russian hoax made Watergate look like small potatoes!!! Your head is warped just like the rest of the groomers. Do you dress in drag also?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:45 am to
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he can say whatever he wants. He chose to run with the stolen election stuff without a shred of proof and inflamed his supporters to believe the big lie. They marched to the capitol and broke in, destroying property, assaulting police


All true

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attempting to disrupt what had happened for 200 years- peaceful transfer of power.


You're losing me.

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Watergate was small potatoes compared to this.



And you lost me......
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 11:54 am to
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Hillary's Russian hoax made Watergate look like small potatoes!!!


This meme was made before the 2020 Election.



Obviously everything that's transpired since Nov. 3, 2020 has dwarfed even Obamagate - though there's a compelling case to be made that Spygate/Obamagate/COVID hoax/Election Steal 2020 are all mere chapters of the same, ongoing story.
Posted by TS1926
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Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:05 pm to
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How do we know the Capital PD “person” wasn’t sympathetic to the peaceful demonstrators entering?

That still doesn’t make it legal does it?

What’s the saying? Ignorance of the law doesn’t make it legal.


It wasn't just the Capitol building but the grounds around it. It was fenced off and any unauthorized entry was illegal. While Trump was still speaking, unidentified (to this day), people removed the fence and barricade. There is video evidence of this. So later when the Trump rally ended, people arriving saw a clear path to the Capitol building. And those people who went over this boundary - now unmarked because the fencing, signs, barricades were removed, are being hunted and prosecuted by the DOJ and having the book thrown at them for simple trespassing.
This was obviously a setup by the corrupt DOJ who is the enforcement arm of the DNC and its deep state associates to "manufacturer" the appearance of some sort of an attempted coup.
Provocateurs' stood shouting through megaphones to corral and move the crowd up and into the Capitol. Are those individual's being prosecuted? No they aren't. In fact, many of them remain unidentified.
Oh and BTW, have they caught the individual who put out pipe "bombs"? No they haven't. Hasn't anyone wondered why? After the FBI exhausted resources to bring in grandma for trespassing, they can't find a guy caught on video planting bombs?
Posted by Poohbear8487
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Obviously everything that's transpired since Nov. 3, 2020 has dwarfed even Obamagate - though there's a compelling case to be made that Spygate/Obamagate/COVID hoax/Election Steal 2020 are all mere chapters of the same, ongoing story.


In for a penny, in for a pound.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:11 pm to
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In for a penny, in for a pound.

There was adequate evidence in the public sphere for folks to swing for the initial Spygate nonsense - particularly when it shifted to spying on a sitting President.

They're never going to make them stop until proper enforcement of our judicial system MAKES them stop. When it does, it won't be pretty for them.

It's not like they're going to throw up their hands and go, "Oh! You caught us! Good on ya! You earned it." They'll lie, cheat, steal and gaslight until their last breaths.
Posted by Willbe76
Great State of Texas
Member since Mar 2022
174 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:25 pm to
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without a shred of proof


He could show you a clear video of the computer program clearly flipping votes and you liberal idiots still would say there is no proof.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Hillary's Russian hoax made Watergate look like small potatoes!


Hillary was a lawyer for the Democrats during Watergate.

Lots of bad shite in our history ends up back on her doorstep. The world will be a better place by a substantial amount when she shuffles off this mortal coil.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Lots of bad shite in our history ends up back on her doorstep.

Yet we're the conspiracy theorists because we notice a pattern of behavior that's willfully ignored by the MSM.

Good times.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:25 pm to
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He chose to run with the stolen election stuff without a shred of proof




Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:27 pm to
That's putting it mildly
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Oh and BTW, have they caught the individual who put out pipe "bombs"? No they haven't. Hasn't anyone wondered why? After the FBI exhausted resources to bring in grandma for trespassing, they can't find a guy caught on video planting bombs?


Of course they can. The question is why haven't they, and I think we all know the answer to that.
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