Correct. You do Realize Russia is fighting NATO via Ukraine as a Proxy? NATO funding, planning, intelligence, equipment, weapon systems, fire control. Did you not see the NYT article that showed how involved we are in Ukraine?

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Or are you saying that Russia and Ukraine are equal militarily

Russia is not fighting Ukraine. They are fighting NATO. If you can't grasp that simple concept from the evidence you will not be able to grasp anything else about this conflict

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Posted by TigerDoc

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Member since Apr 2004

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Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:42 am to 632627

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You almost have to wonder if these alt media pundits are being funded to spew propaganda.

Well, some themselves admit that they are - US conservative influencers say they are ‘victims’ of Russian disinformation campaign

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Posted by LARancher1991

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Member since Jul 2015

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Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:03 pm to John Barron

Ok so that supports my original statement even more. That Ukraine will eventually lose but it would still cause the Russian military to be a shell of it's former self as far as manpower and equipment is concerned and could take years to build back up to it's pre war strength.

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Posted by tide06

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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:48 am to AGGIES

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And yet the cognitive dissonance isn’t coming from the left.

MAGA cannot process that Trump has no idea how to successfully persuade Putin to do anything.

Despite Trump telling them he would end the war on day 1.

The only way Trump could end the war today is by removing all support for Ukraine which ensures an outcome he doesnt want, that being a total victory for Russia in the ongoing conflict.

Z doesnt want peace because he will be out of power and thinks he can continue his hustle because of promises from the EU and the globalists in congress.

Putin cant secure peace that ensures he holds onto his current gains because Z thinks he can draw NATO into the conflict so he makes poison pill peace offers.

So again, Trump can walk away completely and give Putin the keys to Ukraine, or continue what hes doing which is trying to draw the two back to a reasonable deal.

Zero cognitive dissonance involved.

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