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re: Trump needs to act now

Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3033 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:26 pm to
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The population of eligible voters is 153 million people


And...? You gotta do better than that.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12372 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:28 pm to
Well he’s allowing it so what can we do?

Bitch about it on Facebook and TD?
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:29 pm to
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Trump had a 42% approval rating. The population of eligible voters is 153 million people. Even w/ a 4% margin of error, Trump would receive only 70,380,000. 153 million minus 70,380,00 is 82,620,000. That's why he lost, BASIC MATH.


Are you implying that 100% of the voting eligible population voted, in a country notorious for poor voting turnout? What's up with that?

Also, 153 million was the number of eligible voters in 2018 mid terms, and almost certainly not accurate for this year, so you are really not helping your case.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:31 pm to
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Your boy Biden even said in a speech that his crew had the best vote fraud team ever.


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Shared on Facebook and Instagram days leading up to the 2020 U.S. general election, posts show a clip of Joe Biden saying, “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”

The posts falsely ask if the video shows the Democratic presidential candidate “admit(ting) to voter fraud.”

It was a slip of the tongue - Biden was describing the voter protection program his campaign has launched in anticipation of potential legal fights over the outcome of the Nov. 3 election against President Donald Trump.

The clip was taken from a nearly 27-minute interview with Biden on Crooked Media’s “Pod Save America,” a progressive political podcast hosted by former aides to President Barack Obama Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, Dan Pfeiffer and Tommy Vietor ( here ).

Uploaded to YouTube on Oct. 24, the former vice president’s full interview with Pfeiffer and Lovett is available youtu.be/C6u1uKznCYw .


Reuters
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6504 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:33 pm to
Look, I get it, it sucks to admit you’ve been conned. But you’ve all been conned. By Trump, Rudy, Lin Wood, and a bunch of people you’d probably call “betas” on the other board who make memes all day. There’s not going to be an EBS message, and the truth is Trump doesn’t give a shite about you. The best thing you can do for yourself is just learn from it and move on.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18206 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:34 pm to
And that is the problem - voter blindly for your "party" instead of the candidate.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:34 pm to
It's been debunked so many times it's useless to say it anymoreIt hasn't been debunked, at all.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:35 pm to
Trump had a 42% approval rating and won 46% of the vote. That's Exactly the 4% margin of error I quoted.



Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42310 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:38 pm to
What can he do? I don't mean that as a flame, but what does he have the power to do at this point?
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8802 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:39 pm to
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It's been debunked so many times

I think you have debunked and ignored confused.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:40 pm to
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TOPLINE With the Electoral College officially ratifying a win for Joe Biden this week and even President Trump’s closest allies beginning to recognize he lost, here’s a look at the key voter fraud conspiracy theories Trump and his team tried—and failed—to use to overturn the results of the 2020 election.


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That the country’s voting machinery, run by Dominion Voting Systems, was manipulated to delete millions of votes for Trump, flip votes for Biden and has links to Venezuela and its dead former president Hugo Chavez, a series of claims that have been debunked by the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA), which says on its “Rumor Control” page that there is no evidence any voting systems were compromised, and by Dominion, which has insisted that it has no link to Venezuela.


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That dead people were able to vote, particularly in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, a claim that officials in the targeted states have labeled unfounded and that judges have also turned away when raised in court.


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That Republican poll watchers were not allowed to monitor votes being counted in “Democrat-run cities, in key states all across the nation,” as alleged by Trump in a Dec. 2 video about election fraud, a claim that—focused specifically on Pennsylvania in the litigation launched by his team in court—has been debunked by local officials and video evidence of the count online, and was eventually removed from the Trump campaign’s lawsuit.


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That election officials in Nevada’s Democratic-leaning Clark County deliberately manipulated machines used to verify signatures to allow ballots that normally wouldn’t pass muster, a claim that a judge found no evidence to support after a nine-hour evidentiary hearing.


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That large amounts of votes for Biden were “dumped” after in-person ballots were counted on election night, a claim that includes no actual allegations of corruption and instead describes the legitimate tallying of mail-in ballots, which typically takes longer because of verification methods.


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Ultimately, none of these claims—or the countless other allegations floated by Trump and his allies over the past month—had any impact on the election’s results. A Washington Post review found that at least 86 judges from across the political spectrum (some appointed by Trump) rejected at least one post-election lawsuit filed by the president or his supporters, while vote recounts requested by the Trump team in Wisconsin and Georgia made no difference.


Forbes
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:47 pm to
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And that is the problem - voter blindly for your "party" instead of the candidate.


There's such a giant canyon of problems within this sentence, but the biggest is this. To a liberal, no matter how much they disliked or hated Biden, Trump was even worse. They obviously weren't going to vote for Trump, and staying home or voting third party is basically the same as voting for Trump.

We aren't talking about "voting blindly for party", and sticking to that script ignores (1) talking about what really is happening here and (2) that Republicans do the same thing for the party and MAGAs do the same for Trump, and besides primaries nobody in America really ever has an option to pick someone they like, just someone they dislike less (I know Trump is an exception, but that's normal for a populist and he wasn't what the GOP wanted; he's an outlier.)

It'd be "voting blindly for party" if the other option was even remotely acceptable for them. This isn't what's happening, and no liberal was going to ever stomach Trump after the idea painted about him in their heads by TV.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72942 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:49 pm to
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by TigersOfGeauxld


Your parents failed you miserably
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7991 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:49 pm to
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TigersOfGeauxld


Found the first retard of the thread.
Posted by TigerBlitz03
New Iberia
Member since Nov 2008
831 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:50 pm to
Wow, the right are a FEARFUL bunch Of gun toting cowards. So pompous.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7991 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:57 pm to
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It's not his popularity that drove votes for him though, it was hatred (or media-fueled fear, really) of Trump. Got a lot of people to stand up and vote who were scared. So this isn't the right argument.


So tired of this bullshite argument.

Lets see, what bothers normal people more?

Option A- Cities burning, antifa, defund the police, black Lives Matter, shutdowns galore, all non-blacks are racist.

Option B- Trump said something that hurt my feelings.

If you believe people on the fence chose option A, you're dumber than dumb.

0% chance option A gets 80 million +.
0%. Would bet my life on it.

Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7991 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:58 pm to
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TigerBlitz03


Found the second retard of the thread.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:01 pm to
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Republican senator Ben Sasse says he'll take no part in Trump-backed plan to object to Electoral College vote and says in private 'not one' GOP member believes election was 'fraudulent'

'When we talk in private, I haven't heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent - not one,' Sasse wrote in a long Facebook post Wednesday night. 'Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will "look" to President Trump's most ardent supporters.'



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Sasse, who's been one of the few Republican Trump critics on Capitol Hill, laid out the Trump campaign's court cases in each state and then explained why some reported instances of fraud or disparities would not flip the results.

'I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law,' Sasse wrote.

Sasse points out that while there's no legal penalty for misleading the public, there is one for deceiving judges.

'[T]he president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters,' Sasse said.

'So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy,' he added.



Daily Mail
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:15 pm to
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So tired of this bullshite argument.

Lets see, what bothers normal people more?

Option A- Cities burning, antifa, defund the police, black Lives Matter, shutdowns galore, all non-blacks are racist.

Option B- Trump said something that hurt my feelings.

If you believe people on the fence chose option A, you're dumber than dumb.

0% chance option A gets 80 million +.
0%. Would bet my life on it.


It's easy to see this way from inside a bubble, but unfortunately reality is nothing like this. I believe you're standing so far to the right you no longer have a read on what the fence looks like anymore.

Both your Option A and Option B are caricatures of the truth that don't help anything.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7991 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:15 pm to
Tigerblitz and you are to white people what an uncle Tom is to black people.

Why do you hate trump bc he's white?

How old were you when you discovered you were a racist and hated whites?
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