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re: Trump is announcing he is going to rebuild and expand Alcatraz for violent criminals

Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:55 am to
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:55 am to
More deflection
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
27602 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:57 am to
Should he not open Alcatraz
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2402 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:44 am to
Only for himself and his cronies
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
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27602 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:57 am to
Who are his cronies
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1000 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:07 am to
"And guess what the Indians want to do w/it? Just guess. I mean, take a WILD guess."

Bingo parlor with slot machines. Lots and lots of slot machines.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1000 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:25 am to
"Everyone should be losing their minds over this."




Nope, sorry.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:30 am to
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And a list of judges longer than the lines at Disney World just waiting to shut it down


blows my mind, all these radical judges look the same...all with the crazy eyes, the look of a mentally ill individual...doesn't matter which sex, male or female, they all look crazy af.....and in fact, they are.
Posted by Jaydenbetter
Member since Nov 2024
320 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:33 am to
He does realize that it would not be done in 3 years??? Orr
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:26 am to
This is 100% about being symbolic. If you are an illegal - you do not want to break the law and end up in Alcatraz - that place don’t/won’t frick around. It’s the last place on earth an illegal alien would ever want to end up. They might think twice about raping a girl or stealing a tv from the local Best Buy
Posted by OrangeCurtainTiger
Member since Oct 2009
609 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:32 am to
Maybe he sends him self. I mean he has been CONVICTED!!
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
924 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:44 am to
Now, all of a sudden, liberals are worried about saving money.

So full of shite.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:59 am to
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Trump is announcing he is going to rebuild and expand Alcatraz for violent criminals


This sounds dumb. Send them to prison farms and make them work in the sun from dawn to dusk every day. Then put them in isolation for the night. Rinse and repeat the next day.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37355 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:01 am to
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Now, all of a sudden, liberals are worried about saving money.

So full of shite.
And some 'conservatives' suddenly want to make it rain federal dollars on San Francisco. More proof politics is just team sports for most people.

Here's an idea. How about building it in one of these areas that took an economic hit after their well paying manufacturing jobs shipped overseas? That could be a reel boon to one of these places as opposed to San Francisco, where much of that money will eventually find its way into dem politicians pockets and programs that this board hates.

They'd never say it publicly, but Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom would love for this to happen. You know they're going to get their cut.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4805 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:06 am to
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It will probably cost more to refurbish Alcatraz than it would to just use it as inspiration
Will never happen. It's has a shitload of asbestos. You would have to mitigate all of it before even allowing the actual construction workers in there to start refurbishing it.

Alcatraz would be a money pit just trying to repair its previous level of functionality from 60+ years ago much less getting up to modern day standards.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:23 am to
If there is high profile arrest and siezing of assest then that would pay for upgrades.

I'm sure he has a plan in place like for the wall, embassy in Jerusalem, and Space Force. Which were all doubted when he announced them.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Will never happen. It's has a shitload of asbestos. You would have to mitigate all of it before even allowing the actual construction workers in there to start refurbishing it.


It has already started.
quote:

Alcatraz Is Getting a $50 Million Makeover
Published Jul 11, 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/alcatraz-island-prison-construction-project-makeover-1923675
quote:

National Park Service signed a deal with construction firm Tutor Perini for the Alcatraz Island Historic Structures Stabilization and Rehabilitation Project.

The initiative in the San Francisco Bay area focuses on renovating and refurbishing the aging Alcatraz main prison building. The efforts will tackle the building's exterior and interior issues, which have arisen due to long-term wear and tear and structural weaknesses.

The renovation plan includes removing hazardous materials from the outer walls and areas inside that are set for construction, fixing deteriorated parts of the concrete, replacing rusted steel supports, strengthening the base of concrete foundation walls that are currently without reinforcement, and repairing and securing external windows, as well as adding protective storm windows.



https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/structural-upgrades-for-alcatraz-prison-hospital-wing.htm

quote:

A rehabilitation project to correct seismic structural deficiencies of Alcatraz’s Main Prison Building will be funded by approximately $63.6 million from the Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA)


quote:

What are the Benefits:
Seismic upgrades that achieve code compliance increase the seismic resiliency of the Alcatraz Prison Hospital Wing and improve safety.
Structural rehabilitation protects over 1.4 million annual visitors, concession and park staff from the safety hazards created by spalling concrete and peeling lead paint.
Restoring the aging and weather-related impacts to the Alcatraz Prison exterior walls in accordance with historic preservation standards protects the long-term integrity of the historic National Landmark District Prison.
Strengthening the Alcatraz Prison’s roof structure protects a 1,300-panel roof-mounted solar PV array installed in 2012 that produces 400,000kw of electricity annually, reducing demand on the island diesel fuel powered generators by 60%.
Reduction of $53.5 million of deferred maintenance and repair backlog on an NHL building.
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
973 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 12:28 pm to
Dumb
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4805 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:59 pm to
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It has already started.


Asbestos and lead paint remediation needed to do some structural work to keep the main buildings from falling down on tourist is not the same as remediation needed to convert the entire island into a fully operating federal penitentiary. They would need to update every single building on the island as well as all of the utility and maintenance areas that are typically not needed for tourist visits.

And it reads as though this $50-63 million renovation/remediation is only for the Hospital Wing and exterior walls of the cellhouse. Have you been there? That is only a fraction of the island (with all of the underground spaces) and doesn't account for any remediation you would need to do before replacing almost all of the plumbing, HVAC, electric and massive amount of equipment and fixtures on the island you would need to convert it to a 21st century penitentiary. This 50-63 million is a drop in the bucket of what it would be if you shifted the project to actually updating the facility to again be a prison.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1263 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:02 pm to
Not sure if he's given enough thought to how expensive it will be to operate in California.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
924 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:56 pm to
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And some 'conservatives' suddenly want to make it rain federal dollars on San Francisco. More proof politics is just team sports for most people.


I did not say anything about the viability of using Alcatraz for a prison.

My point was that democrats and the left are pieces of shite that intentionally borrow/spend with the intent of bankrupting our country and doing some kind of a reset because they have a grudge from shite from 250 years ago. They have no problems spending billions to bring illegal criminals to our country and starting wars. They have no problem funneling tons of cash to NGOs, of which they get a cut.

They want my daughters to have to compete in sports and change in dressing rooms with perverted men who want to cosplay as women.

So yeah its a team sport. Good vs. Evil.

And guess what? The democrats and liberals are the evil ones.

So frick you and your moral equivalency. We are not putting up with it any more.

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