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Trump: "I am not a witch"

Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:38 pm
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A debate over his mental competence is not one that Trump should want. He should be talking relentlessly about the rising stock market, the economy, the companies giving their employees bonuses because of the tax cut he shepherded to passage.
Debating whether he is a) smart b) mentally competent or c) in a state of mental deterioration is a stone-cold loser for him. Strategic politicians fight only on ground that is favorable for them. Or they steer conversations or debate to ground that is favorable to them. They don't engage in fights they can't win. And the "I am really a very smart genius" fight is not one that has a "win" for Trump.



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Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:39 pm to
My investment accounts tell me he is a GD Wizard I’ll tell you what
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:40 pm to
You’d think by now that leftists would understand that Trump is a marketing and PR master.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:46 pm to
He has a spell on you.
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Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Strategic politicians fight only on ground that is favorable for them. Or they steer conversations or debate to ground that is favorable to them. They don't engage in fights they can't win. And the "I am really a very smart genius" fight is not one that has a "win" for Trump.


What, in the last 2 years, has indicated to you that Trump follows what typical politicians do?

ETA: this goes well with my other thread about the ridiculousness and dangerousness of Dems going with the "mentally unstable" narrative.

"He's not doing what most politicians do, and we don't like it. He's mentally ill.'

This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:55 pm to
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You’d think by now that leftists would understand that Trump is a marketing and PR master.


His companies have filed for Chapter 11 several times. Not saying that bankruptcy is the ultimate litmus test for marketing or financial genius, but he's had mixed success. Where I work in management consulting, nobody considers Trump a genius by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:57 pm to
Your post shows you don't know shite about business.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:01 pm to
What do you do for a living?
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:02 pm to
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His companies have filed for Chapter 11 several times. 


This holds very little weight. Many successful businessman file bankruptcy at some point. Very very rarely do all of your endeavors become successful.

He may not be a "genius" perse, but you can't deny the man is good at branding.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Where I work in management consulting, nobody considers Trump a genius by any stretch of the imagination.



The fries are done. Add salt, or some of your tears.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:06 pm to
So how many times have the other billionaires in this country filed for bankruptcy?
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

This holds very little weight. Many successful businessman file bankruptcy at some point. Very very rarely do all of your endeavors become successful.

He may not be a "genius" perse, but you can't deny the man is good at branding.


That's what I'm saying. He's above average and he's had some success, but he's no genius. That's a high bar that he simply does not live up to
Posted by TuDog
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:07 pm to
DT smarter than you. Get over it
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:10 pm to
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My investment accounts tell me he is a GD Wizard I’ll tell you what



DiCaprio better get the movie rights, right now!
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:17 pm to
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He's above average and he's had some success


I mean I guess if you consider billionaire President of the United States as "some success".

Posted by Grim
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:20 pm to
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My investment accounts tell me he is a GD Wizard I’ll tell you what

The. President. Does. Not. Control. The. Stock. Market.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:23 pm to
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I mean I guess if you consider billionaire President of the United States as "some success".



He took ownership of the family biz. Paris Hilton is a billionaire too. She's not a genius.

And let's not pretend like the presidency qualifies someone as genius either. George Bush? Barack Obama?
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:26 pm to
The articles right.

No one here thinks the guy declaring “I am smart and stable” is better off than the guy saying “we have achieved.....” (and use real and quantifiable/verifiable examples - of which he has some)
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:37 pm to
I'm not saying he's a genius, I'm simply calling your description of his endeavors as "some success" as being a bit disingenuous.

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He took ownership of the family biz. Paris Hilton is a billionaire too. She's not a genius. 


Eh, that's a terrible comparison IMO. Sure he got help from his dad, but he built his own empire. Paris Hilton is basically a trust fund baby. Big difference.

But again, I never said he was a genius, you just can't deny the guys success and his ability to brand himself, whether you hate him or not.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 2:38 pm
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