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re: Time: Hackers changed voter rolls

Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Not sure if Russians, but sure about hackers changing voter rolls at county level.

I don't believe any of that. there is no secretary of state or registrar of voters who will admit to being hacked. There is no freaking way!
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:02 pm to
If only one rightful voter purged doesn't get (or hasn't) to cast a single vote, to me, that is a grave injustice. A true affront to our democracy and our constitution. Just because a situation has a remedy doesn't mean it isn't a problem.

My solution would be much more time consuming and difficult. Verifying each individual person being purged through multiple sources. Instead of large scale purges that are based on loose voting history, or any other large scale removal method. Also, a cross state referencing/simataneous roll switch system would be great
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14428 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:13 pm to
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You aren't concerned that there is potential for our electoral processes to be compromised?


I'm very concerned about 30 million illegal immigrants potentially voting in blue states that have weak voter identification laws.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133563 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:14 pm to
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If only one rightful voter purged doesn't get (or hasn't) to cast a single vote, to me, that is a grave injustice.
Drama Queen, much?

Your hyperbole on this issue costs you credibility....
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Drama Queen, much?

I thought you were all big believers in the constitution?
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Your hyperbole on this issue costs you credibility

How so? My logic is consistent. I've used evidence/constitution/previous circumstances to back up my ideas. How in the world could my credibility on be in question?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133563 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:45 pm to
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Drama Queen, much?


I thought you were all big believers in the constitution?
Drama Queen, much?

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How so?
ONE vote not allowed is a "grave injustice"?? That's how.

In Louisiana if a person goes to vote and is told he is not on the voter roll, he is given a "provisional paper ballot" allowing him to vote (all election day voting in Louisiana is done electronically) and his eligibility to vote is researched.

If his name was removed by error his provisional ballot vote is counted.

If he is proven to not be eligible to vote at that precinct or is proven to have voted in another precinct his provisional ballot is not counted.

You are greatly exaggerating the consequences of one vote not being allowed. You make it sound like it's an epidemic of voters being disallowed voting. Hence, your credibility is damaged.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35758 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:50 pm to
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if this impacted republicans, yall would be going apeshit.



You have evidence of this actually happening and only to democrats?
Posted by MAGA
Member since Sep 2016
617 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:53 pm to
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If only one rightful voter purged doesn't get (or hasn't) to cast a single vote, to me, that is a grave injustice.


I agree and if one person votes illegally (like even the left is agreeing that is/has happened) - then it nullified my vote.

That is a grave injustice.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5348 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:37 pm to
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There's no such thing as voter fraud.



There's no such thing as voter fraud - and therefore I am offended that you would suggest that we look for voter fraud. I hear this from a liberal friend. He also tells me that photo ID "disenfranchises" poor voters.
Posted by FandIgod
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2017
217 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:38 pm to
omg !

just stop it

TIME = MSM
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:01 pm to
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In Louisiana if a person goes to vote and is told he is not on the voter roll, he is given a "provisional paper ballot" allowing him to vote (all election day voting in Louisiana is done electronically) and his eligibility to vote is researched.

If his name was removed by error his provisional ballot vote is counted.

If he is proven to not be eligible to vote at that precinct or is proven to have voted in another precinct his provisional ballot is not counted.


That isn't how it works in other states. Also, in the scenarios I suggested, it wouldn't be "an error", they simply wouldn't exist...and provisional ballots would be thrown out as such.
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You are greatly exaggerating the consequences of one vote not being allowed. You make it sound like it's an epidemic of voters being disallowed voting. Hence, your credibility is damaged.

How many of those "one votes" does it take to make a difference? In some races, just the one. If the constitutional right to vote being infringed doesn't get you upset, it should. But that in no way damages my credibility, as I still care that every single eligible voter should be able to cast their ballot. Caring too much (which im surmising your opinion to be) doesn't damage credibility. I'm very much missing how it would, in any case. I've yet to post a contradictory opinion, or made any non-credible claims. The only way my credibility would be damaged would be you, in your totally arbitrary opinion, deeming it so.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133563 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:16 pm to
frick off, Drama Queen. Your faux outrage and hyperbole is laughable.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
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frick off, Drama Queen. Your faux outrage and hyperbole is laughable


2 things i care about more than anything. First amendment right to free speech, and right to vote. That is all real. But sure, if that makes you feel better, go ahead.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:21 pm to
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They are lying. I am starting to believe our IC would put Russian fingerprints on something just so they can be butthurt the democrats lost.

Tomorrow they will say all the HRC votes were changed to Trump votes.


No need to believe...

Do they have the capability?
Yes, exposed by Vault7, wikileaks

Have they done this practically?
Yes, exposed by Stuxnet

Do they have the will to do this in our own country?
Yes, exposed by the state of Indiana in Jan 2017

So, no belief required, as Carlin put it, "THE GAME IS RIGGED...THERE'S A BIG CLUB, AND YOU AND I AIN'T INVITED"

Then he died...
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:22 pm to
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right to vote


Where is that at?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133563 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
Nobody cares what you care about, Drama Queen. You have no credibilty.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Where is that at?

14th/15th amendments...in addition to Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29259 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:44 pm to
How many states did the DHS try to hack?
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