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Theories on why mortality rate is climbing? ref. Chromdome's pinned stats

Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:53 am
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:53 am
For 18 days the mortality rate has climbed. It is over 3.5% now. Any theories?

Does anyone track whether the fallen had been given hydroxychloroquine? HCO+zpack, HCO+ other cocktails?

When will mortality rate start going back down?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57235 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:53 am to
Hospitals need that dough
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120169 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:53 am to
We still arent testing healthy people with mild symptoms, at least 50% of infected have no symptoms and we are at the top of the curve
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:54 am to
because nobody knows the actual denominator for the death rate
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:54 am to
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Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22710 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:54 am to
Because the numbers being counted now are including every sickness known to man, plus Wu flu.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:56 am to
That was always going to happen. It was at its trough while new cases were exploding. We know that the average time to death from first symptoms is around two weeks. So while we were adding thousands and thousands of cases to the denominator of the CFR, those cases were not at a point of progression to figure into the numerator.

The published CFR is of limited value in relationship to the actual CFR of the disease as has been discussed ad nauseam on this board. Only when we get some idea of asymptomatic prevalence of the virus will we have a better handle on it.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:56 am to
quote:

We still arent testing healthy people with mild symptoms, at least 50% of infected have no symptoms and we are at the top of the curve


If you look at the stats that he is tracking, the percentage of tests that comes back negative is increasing. Soi have no reason to believe that we are missing the mild cases in substantial numbers.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98461 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Because the numbers being counted now are including every sickness known to man, plus Wu flu.


This.

At the end of the day, any stats generated about this crap should be viewed with tremendous skepticism.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:59 am to
quote:

If you look at the stats that he is tracking, the percentage of tests that comes back negative is increasing. Soi have no reason to believe that we are missing the mild cases in substantial numbers.

If a majority of cases are mild or don’t require hospitalization then are they ever being tested on a regular basis? There are so many stories about having symptoms and not being able to get a test so I’d imagine there is a decent %age that would apply.
Posted by TigerMuskyFanMinneso
Boonies, MN
Member since Sep 2019
753 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:05 pm to
Simple math calculation with wrong denominator!1 - if you lag the deaths vs cases by 5 days you will see it falling.....as cases come down, unless you lag to allow for the time it takes for a hospitalized case to die
We have peaked....

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26644 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:06 pm to
Ventilators are a death sentence, but are still being used?
Posted by TigerMuskyFanMinneso
Boonies, MN
Member since Sep 2019
753 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:06 pm to
Simple math calculation with wrong denominator!1 - if you lag the deaths vs cases by 5 days you will see it falling.....as cases come down, unless you lag to allow for the time it takes for a hospitalized case to die
We have peaked....

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:12 pm to
This happens with literally every country and case study. South Korea, Diamond Princess, Italy, China, France, etc.

Deaths are a lagging number. New cases will eventually start to fall but many of those new cases won’t succumb to the disease for 2 weeks or more.

Some say it’s because unnecessary deaths are being counted? Jesus y’all really have your head in the sand. Did every country do this in unison?

The mortality rate is much lower than 3.8% in reality as many many cases were missed. But expect this to happen in every situation, and it’s not manipulation of numbers it’s just common sense.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:27 pm to
They just allowed pharmacies to administer testing if/when kits are available.

That rolls out and a shitload of testing starts happening you'll see it drop.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

we are at the top of the curve


I hope so, we should know for sure by the middle of next week.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Some say it’s because unnecessary deaths are being counted? Jesus y’all really have your head in the sand. Did every country do this in unison?


Nah it is the same group that denied there would be any deaths, then denied there would be 100, then 500 then 1000 and on and on.

They are far too emotionally invested to pull their head out of their arse this far into it.

It will always be muh this and muh that with them rather than simply admit the truth staring them in the face.
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