re: The removal of God from society

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faith in not having faith isn't a thing. that's insane.

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That's not what I said. Atheists have to have a lot of faith in their own belief system.

Materialistic, humanistic atheism--for all its bragging about being intellectually superior and based on reason and fact--is based entirely on faith. Pretty much all core tenants of atheism are based on unprovable presuppositions, held to by faith.

Instead of God, you believe in mankind as the head of all creation..er.. accidental existence. Instead of the Bible, you look to scientific journals. You believe in no afterlife or soul, though you have to hold to that belief on faith. You believe in epistemology through empiricism, though you cannot be sure that all truth and knowledge can only be gained empirically.

You have a priesthood of scientists and moral commandments (do unto others) based on arbitrary distinctions like empathetic responses that have evolved with no purpose. You cannot account for immaterial concepts like reason/logic, love, even thoughts, as you cannot account for that which isn't material. And if you actually believe in the existence of immaterial things, you have no rational way to put the material and immaterial together (like immaterial thoughts in a material brain).

You don't have a basis for objective moral reasoning, either, so you have to push your moral beliefs on others in spite of the natural contradiction of doing so (if morality is entirely subjective, there is no basis to say any differing moral beliefs are objectively wrong or worse than your own).

Since you believe humans are the result of chance and time coming together through evolution and survival of the fittest, even our thoughts would have to be hard-wired based on natural processes, which alleviates the concept of free will/thought, reason, and responsibility for actions, though you act as if that isn't the result of your own belief system and seek to convince others to change their minds, abandoning foolish thoughts and beliefs about God and religion, though our thoughts would just be the result of chemical reactions in our brains.

Don't kid yourself. Just because you reject your creator doesn't mean you aren't religious.

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Bottom line: If you are attempting to 'know' God, then your BELIEF will be THE determining. Perception becomes Reality. Scripture says that "He that seeks to know God, must FIRST BELIVE that He (God) exists". No Belief...no god. And I stand by my statement of "no hope", that one's 'self-aware' (Self) will continue to exist. It (the Self) will be absorbed back into the Universal (either Self Aware God, or no) 'Reservoir' and cease to be. Jesus said "he that seeks to save himself shall lose himself...". That is a riddle. A lot of the Bible is. Because one's First Principal CHOICE, DETERMINES REALITY.

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Very interesting. Belief, perception, reality. Energy fundamental, matter derivative. Certain similarities to the observer as fundamental in quantum physics.