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The PT is a Think Tank
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:21 pm
There’s only one difference in a think tank and an echo chamber. Does the board admin censor particular thinkers?
If so, it’s an echo chamber. If not, it’s a think tank.
You can’t get mad if your argument is under represented, if nobody's keeping anyone from having it and most people electively decide not to. Definitely sounds like the person making the argument could be the issue, or even more likely the argument itself.
Only when censoring opinions do you cast the lefty loons SJW worldview as a majority. (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, DU)
So my question to whoever asked earlier if PT is an echo chamber is simply who is Chicken censoring here?
If so, it’s an echo chamber. If not, it’s a think tank.
You can’t get mad if your argument is under represented, if nobody's keeping anyone from having it and most people electively decide not to. Definitely sounds like the person making the argument could be the issue, or even more likely the argument itself.
Only when censoring opinions do you cast the lefty loons SJW worldview as a majority. (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, DU)
So my question to whoever asked earlier if PT is an echo chamber is simply who is Chicken censoring here?
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:23 pm to Stacked
I prefer an echo chamber
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:23 pm to Stacked
I’m guessing Gerald is getting censored frequently but that’s mainly because he’s a lunatic.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:26 pm to Stacked
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So my question to whoever asked earlier if PT is an echo chamber is simply who is Chicken censoring here?
Probably should have asked him in that thread instead of making a new one then.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:27 pm to Stacked
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PT is think tank
Agreed as it is not Facebook, Google or Yahoo which are all Ca liberal techs who eliminate people like Diamond and Silk from tube and Facebook
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:27 pm to Stacked
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There’s only one difference in a think tank and an echo chamber
This board doesn't perform any policy research, or basically anything a think tank does. It isn't a think tank in any sense of the term. It's not even all that thoughtful of a place. There are thoughtful posters, but it seems to me that it is what you expect of a political message board attached to a sports message board for a university in the south.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:28 pm to Me4Heisman
In fairness I was banned for two-years, but I was told to take my opinion to the PT where discussions could be had so I did “my time” and here I am to test that promise.
But they certainly didn’t ban me for leftists views, and I see leftist views on her all the time with no censoring, so if anyone is going to claim this place is an echo chamber they’re going to have a hard time proving an argument.
But they certainly didn’t ban me for leftists views, and I see leftist views on her all the time with no censoring, so if anyone is going to claim this place is an echo chamber they’re going to have a hard time proving an argument.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:31 pm to crazy4lsu
What Think Tanks are used for traditionally and what a think tank is in this situation as compared to an echo chamber are two different things.
I’m simply pointing out that referring to it as an echo chamber insists there’s censoring of certain ideas happening and those things aren’t happening. All thoughts are welcome to think in this tank.
I’m simply pointing out that referring to it as an echo chamber insists there’s censoring of certain ideas happening and those things aren’t happening. All thoughts are welcome to think in this tank.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:31 pm to Stacked
It is actually a relatively unbiased place to get your news and opinion.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:31 pm to BuckeyesAndBulldogs
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Probably should have asked him in that thread instead of making a new one then.
I’ll do what I want.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:39 pm to Stacked
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There’s only one difference in a think tank and an echo chamber. Does the board admin censor particular thinkers?
That literally has nothing to do with the difference. And you don’t have to have mod support to do it. If there is no good opposing arguments or discussion because anyone worth participating were run off, you can still achieve the parameters of an echo chamber.
And it most certainly isn’t binary where you are either one or the other. No sane person would label this place a think tank even if they don’t think it’s an echo chamber.
But muh warm and fuzzies, so take the upvotes and agreement.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:40 pm to Me4Heisman
Gerald went way above his approved limit using “orange shitgibbon”.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:42 pm to Stacked
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What Think Tanks are used for traditionally and what a think tank is in this situation as compared to an echo chamber are two different things.
You can't make up definitions for words on a whim. Think tanks can be highly partisan and often are. I'm being pedantic but given how oddly you have used the term, I don't know if you actually know what think tanks are. Using the word "salon" would have conveyed your point more succinctly.
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I’m simply pointing out that referring to it as an echo chamber insists there’s censoring of certain ideas happening and those things aren’t happening. All thoughts are welcome to think in this tank.
I don't censorship is a necessary quality of an echo chamber, though it can aid in its formation. An echo chamber requires selective exposure, confirmation bias, groupthink, group polarization, deindividuation, and various attribution errors, in my view. There is plenty of bias errors seen in this board, many of which go unchallenged.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:45 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is plenty of bias errors seen in this board, many of which go unchallenged.
But are free to be challenged so this certainly isn’t an echo chamber.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:47 pm to crazy4lsu
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This board doesn't perform any policy research, or basically anything a think tank does. It isn't a think tank in any sense of the term. It's not even all that thoughtful of a place. There are thoughtful posters, but it seems to me that it is what you expect of a political message board attached to a sports message board for a university in the south.
think tanks don't do policy research - they are paid to produce reports and support positions that bolster a given agenda.
This place, like many others on the internet, has been ahead of think tanks, the media, and various commentators with quite a few items -
this place was a couple steps ahead of every media outlet I'm aware of, with regard to Trump's signing of the omnibus, what it meant, what constrained him, his options etc. To be honest, this place had the most thorough debate about that topic, by far.
this place (partially) and a few others began putting heat on Sessions before Trump did, and way before many of the experts out there; and also this board started calling out Adam Schiff for looking like he may be a leaker before anyone Congress or elsewhere had the balls to do it.
finally, I don't know if it's coincidence or not, but I've seen quite a few comments and threads about popular commentators, especially Hannity, and how awful he is at interviewing and interrupting people and how he needs to allow his guests to make his points for him and recently he's done way, way less interrupting. Maybe there's influence or maybe it's just coincidence, and perhaps many sites have said the same thing so he could not help but notice that feedback
i doubt this place is monitored as much as reddit, but i'm sure it's looked at a little bit. in any event, it's ahead of the curve pretty often.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:52 pm to starsandstripes
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think tanks don't do policy research - they are paid to produce reports and support positions that bolster a given agenda.
They can perform policy research, but like I said in my second post, many are highly partisan and are used to bolster certain positions, which is why the think tank reference is nonsense. So we agree on that.
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This place, like many others on the internet, has been ahead of think tanks, the media, and various commentators with quite a few items -
I'm well aware. I've been on the board a long time.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:53 pm to Stacked
And it certainly isn't a think tank, even if we use your made up definition of the word.
Posted on 4/22/18 at 1:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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You can't make up definitions for words on a whim.
I can do whatever I want, but that’s not what was done here.
The definition of a think tank is a body of experts providing advice and ideas on specific political or economic problems. What do you think this place is if not a wildly diverse body of experts discussing relevant political problems as they pertain to each individual expertise?
This is a Think Tank.
You just don’t like the conclusions that are being reached and aren’t used to this volumn of thinkers who each oppose you. That’s your own echo chamber to blame for how it’s shaped your perception. They’re still censoring conservative thought on all major social media.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 2:19 pm to Stacked
quote:I like...
think tank
Posted on 4/22/18 at 2:20 pm to Stacked
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What do you think this place is if not a wildly diverse body of experts discussing relevant political problems as they pertain to each individual expertise?
This board is not a body of experts. That's laughable. There are a handful, but policy discussions aren't all that deep, and threads often devolve into name calling on or after the first page.
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You just don’t like the conclusions that are being reached and aren’t used to this volumn of thinkers who each oppose you.
I'm perfectly fine with disagreeing with me. A think tank is a poor choice for what you mean, when again, a salon encapsulates the spirit of the term much better.
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That’s your own echo chamber to blame for how it’s shaped your perception
What echo chamber? I've been on this board for 13 years. I don't peruse any other political boards. You are just sore because you used a term in a nonsense way and I called you about it. If you were smart, you would have retorted about how I made your point for you, but then you made this retreat, which is also nonsense.
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