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The problem with gun control and free will (C.S. Lewis, 1940)

Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:56 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:56 am
My old friend weighs in from beyond the grave...

“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata -of creatures that worked like machines- would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free.
Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently, He thought it worth the risk. (...) If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will -that is, for making a real world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings- then we may take it it is worth paying.”

The Case for Christianity, 1940
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:20 am to
wise man
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:28 pm to
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wise man
maybe but his understanding of the reason for free will is very lacking
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:30 pm to
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maybe but his understanding of the reason for free will is very lacking



Well by all means, educate us, oh wise one
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:31 pm to
And this is what is wrong with Islam. Free will must be crushed by physical punishment. Allah requires that man be virtuous. But if man does not have the option of doing anything but what is right then he is not demonstrating any virtue.
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