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re: The Novavax Vaccine Availability

Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:54 am to
Novavax is a traditional vaccine. They grow a batch of virus, kill it, break it down into its parts and harvest the parts they want. It should produce something closer to natural immunity with a bit wider of a spectrum of response.

The FDA under Biden is just making sure there isn't an errant semicolon in a foot note somewhere in the presentation.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:57 am to
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Novavax


Ain’t getting that one either


If I'm force to take a vaccine or lose my job I'd rather take the Novavax. But do not want to take a COVID vaccine. It's unnecessary for me. I've had COVID and the symptoms for me were less than many report from symptoms of the mRNA vaccines.

Additionally I've been surrounded and lived an entire month with family members that caught COVID. I tested negative the entire time and did not exhibit one symptom. That gives me a high level of confidence I have the antibodies from a prior infection. I don't need the vaccine.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:59 am to
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They grow a batch of virus, kill it, break it down into its parts and harvest the parts they want.


It's manufactured through a recombinant RNA or DNA process to make the spiked protein.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4133 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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The Chinese picked up on the fact that people using the active ingredient in Pepcid had statistically significant
milder cases


Famotidine?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112371 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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they are probably waiting on FDA approval.


yeah....good luck with that
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:05 am to
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Famotidine?


Yes. It has antiviral properties.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112371 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:08 am to
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Famotidine?


Yes. It has antiviral properties.


That is interesting.

I take Nexium pretty much every day and I have wondered about whether those types of medications (or whether the underlying conditions [acid reflux, GERD, etc.]) may play a role in suppressing Covid
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39957 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:47 am to
Pepcid ac isnwjstnove read people here say to take.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:50 am to
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That is interesting.

I take Nexium pretty much every day and I have wondered about whether those types of medications (or whether the underlying conditions [acid reflux, GERD, etc.]) may play a role in suppressing Covid



I doubt Nexium has antiviral properties. Famotidine however does. It's my understanding that the mechanism is the interruption of protein assimilation when the virus is trying to build itself.
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
5693 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:08 am to
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He’s been right with so much that I tend to believe what he says.


Well, he's wrong this time.
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
5693 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:10 am to
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I check on this pretty regularly and it’s definitely being slow walked in the US. Other countries already have contracts for it though

Japan recently ordered a shite ton of this vaccine
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:12 am to
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All of the FDA imposed Novavax delays are indeed political.


FIFY
Posted by Southof10Tiger
H-Town
Member since May 2013
136 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:19 am to
This is very interesting to me and I will do more research on this. I have GERD and have been taking Famotadine twice daily for a few years now.

Like most of America, I had a Vit D deficiency so I’ve been on a regular supplement for D, C, and B2 (helps with migraines) for a few years now.

So far, I’ve been lucky it seems to have avoided this virus.
Posted by Southof10Tiger
H-Town
Member since May 2013
136 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:24 am to
I’ll search and see if I can find the comments as well.

I found this article from the University of Nebraska Med Center a while back. I believe it does a decent job of providing an explanation.

Haven’t tried to link anything for a long time so hopefully this works.

LINK UNL Med Center Novavax Explanation
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37028 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:31 am to
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I take Nexium pretty much every day and I have wondered about whether those types of medications (or whether the underlying conditions [acid reflux, GERD, etc.]) may play a role in suppressing Covid

Nexium is a proton pump inhibitor. Famotidine is an H2 blocker. Not the same.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39957 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:38 am to
Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:42 am to
But your chance of death or long term issues with covid if healthy and under 50 is probably 1 in 1000

Even if you are over 65

Chance of death or long term issue from vaccine 1 in 100000.

How do you know this? VAERS is an unreliable voluntary reporting system. Some authorities report up to 50K deaths from the vaccines and untold numbers of injuries.

Orders of magnitude different

When you believe the reporting in todays propaganda filled news then there is a 99% chance your are an airhead.
Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:43 am to
Are you taking anything that aids the absorption of Zinc?
Posted by Southof10Tiger
H-Town
Member since May 2013
136 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:46 pm to
Okay, I see what that poster is saying. In my non-medical, research-based opinion, he/she is correct about the spike protein. However, he left out some important information about other components of the vaccine.

It is not a viral vector, that is correct. It is recombinant DNA, which is coupled with an adjuvant. The adjuvant is supposed to allow for a lower viral load needed to generate a response from the immune system. It was never intended to be a viral vector vaccine.

The spike protein is included because the idea is to allow for the immune system to generate a response to the spike protein as well as the viral load.

Novavax is specifically different from all the currently available vaccines. I believe the link I posted above to the Nebraska Med Center article does a good job of working through it.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39957 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:01 pm to
If he’s not and sees things hope he adds quercitin. There’s also a combo zn/ionophere names here — I bookmarked it but will see if I can find it.
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