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re: The Media gaslighting over the Barr letter is incredible

Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:32 am to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:32 am to
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tigerinDC09


Upvoting yourself.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:33 am to
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Do you have a link for this?
"When Barr pressed him whether he thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said." LINK
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:35 am to
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Upvoting yourself.
Sad little low level DC operative.
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:36 am to
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"When Barr pressed him whether he thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said." LINK


is not anywhere near

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if “not for the DOJ policy, would you have indicted Trump on obstruction?”
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:37 am to
So.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:38 am to
Thanks.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 am to
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So.


So.

Your attempt to help the other poster cover up a quote he apparently pulled out of nowhere, is pathetic.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 am to
Start at 18:00

It’s the first question he is asked
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 am to
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cover up a quote
upvote this!
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:40 am to
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Barr expressly stated that the OLC opinion had no impact on Mueller's decision making process.


Nope, you havent read Barr's summary of conclusions. He said it had no impact on Barr's and Rosenstein's decision making process.

Neither have you read Mueller's report. He does expressly state that he was guided by that biblical OLC memorandum.
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:49 am to
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Start at 18:00

It’s the first question he is asked


I know we disagree, on this, but I really do appreciate you finding this so we can have a discussion on the facts.... It's very nuance so for at least looking for this and I take back you saying you pulled it out of nowhere.

Here's the transcript:

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Barr: "I would leave it to his description in the report, the special counsel's own articulation of why he did not want to make a determination as to whether or not there was an obstruction offense. But I will say that when we met with him, Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein and I met with him, along with Ed o'Callaghan, who is the principal associate deputy, on March 5th.
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We specifically asked him about the OLC opinion and whether or not he was taking a position that he would have found a crime but for the existence of the OLC opinion. And he made it very clear several times that that was not his position.
He was not saying that but for the OLC opinion, he would have found a crime. He made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime."


So, Barr is saying that we should take his word on the fact that Mueller said something. And this is where I differ with you, there's no reason to take Barr's word on this.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:50 am to
Further confirmation Mueller is a dishonest piece of shite.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:51 am to
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tigerinDC09


You are back embarrassing yourself still hanging on to muh Russia
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:51 am to
The USA has entered a new phase in its history -- the Final Phase in which it and the other nation-states are phased out of existence.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:51 am to
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there's no reason to take Barr's word on this.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:52 am to
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“if not for the DOJ policy, would you have indicted Trump on obstruction?”

Mueller said no.



What you should have said is that Barr SAYS Mueller said:

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He was not saying that but for the OLC opinion, he would have found a crime. He made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime."

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:54 am to
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He made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime."


So he wasted 2 years of our time and millions of dollars of taxpayer money to come to no conclusions!
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:55 am to
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What you should have said is that Barr SAYS Mueller said:
That's nice Eddie.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:57 am to
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So, Barr is saying that we should take his word on the fact that Mueller said something. And this is where I differ with you, there's no reason to take Barr's word on this.



So you think Barr is lying?

Fine. There is no evidence to support it and he implicates Rosenstein and O’Callaghan as being present during the conversation which would make him the worst liar ever.

So I’ve presented evidence to support the position that the OLC opinion did not affect the ultimate position on obstruction. You’ve counter with “Barr lied.”

You’ve stated point blank that the OLC did materially alter his finding as to the ultimate conclusion. Please provide any evidence whatsoever to support this position.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:02 am to
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You’ve stated point blank that the OLC did materially alter his finding as to the ultimate conclusion.


From the Mueller report:

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The Office of Legal Counsel has determined that a sitting president can't be indicted, but beyond that, we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct.


The OLC opinion made it so that he wasn't allowed to reach a conclusion. How does that not alter his decision?
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