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Our local gun expert is here to tell us why we need to ban AR15s but doesn't know this?
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:51 pm to Rebel
Damn dude why you gotta go there? He's harmless.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:51 pm to MrCarton
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No offense man, but we've had this thread / discussion about 150 times this week.
Thank you. The last thing we need is another thread from Bubba explaining the technical specs of an AR or Ruger are virtually the same. I suppose the average American could be forgiven for not understanding given the last 3-4 mass shooting involved a weapon that was or looks similar to the AR
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:55 pm to 14&Counting
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I suppose the average American could be forgiven for not understanding given the last 3-4 mass shooting involved a weapon that was or looks similar to the AR
Sorry but I can't "forgive" them for wanting to ban something they know nothing about when that doesn't solve a damn thing ultimately.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:55 pm to Lou Pai
you haven't been around him as long as I have.
he is a horrible poster.
he is a horrible poster.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:57 pm to Rebel
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He wants to live a society just like his great uncle Elijah who was unable to defend himself when the government came and took him to Dachau.
Worst and most intellectually dishonest poster on the entire site.
He's a troll man.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:59 pm to Rebel
I've been around the block and I'm familiar with his shtick. Not trying to be a sanctimonious douche and I know where you are coming from but damn.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:00 pm to stout
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Sorry but I can't "forgive" them for wanting to ban something they know nothing about when that doesn't solve a damn thing ultimately.
I don't disagree with you necessarily but the fact remains that the AR remains the weapon of choice for psychos who want to shoot up public places. The more this continues the more pressure is going to be brought to bear by the public and the more you and I will be on the losing side of the public debate.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:02 pm to Rebel
Don't why anyone is giving you shite. Troll or not, spot on assessment.
Rex is a troll but an unimaginably better poster than jewux.
That last word was a typo that I'm not fixing because it's oddly relevant.
Rex is a troll but an unimaginably better poster than jewux.
That last word was a typo that I'm not fixing because it's oddly relevant.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:02 pm to 14&Counting
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I don't disagree with you necessarily but the fact remains that the AR remains the weapon of choice for psychos who want to shoot up public places.
Until it isn't.
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The more this continues the more pressure is going to be brought to bear by the public and the more you and I will be on the losing side of the public debate.
The Bill of Rights exists specifically to stop "public debate" from removing rights based on emotional responses.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:11 pm to Centinel
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The Bill of Rights exists specifically to stop "public debate" from removing rights based on emotional responses.
There may more murders in south Chicago by handguns but what gets people motivated are the Parkland and Sandy Hooks. The fact remains AR patterned rifles are what has been used. Sticking your head in the sand over that fact won't make it go away and the efforts to do something about it. More Sandy Hooks and people will demand something be done and you will get your 2nd rights curtailed and you will choke it down.
I am simply stating that that I think public opinion is going to eventually turn on this issue eventually not that I endorse that position.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:22 pm to 14&Counting
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I suppose the average American could be forgiven for not understanding given the last 3-4 mass shooting involved a weapon that was or looks similar to the AR
Can the average American be forgiven for not digging past the most superficial aspect of a problem?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:24 pm to SoulGlo
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Can the average American be forgiven for not digging past the most superficial aspect of a problem?
Yes...because they don't give a frick. These and are terrified of the common denominator and will obviously go after that.........
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:27 pm to 14&Counting
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There may more murders in south Chicago by handguns but what gets people motivated are the Parkland and Sandy Hooks.
Thanks for proving my point about the Bill of Rights protecting against emotion-based responses
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I am simply stating that that I think public opinion is going to eventually turn on this issue eventually not that I endorse that position.
No. Public opinion on this subject will be non-existent in the next week or two when the Next Big Thing happens and the media goes apeshit over it.
#Kony2012 #BringOurGirlsBack
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:35 pm to 14&Counting
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The Bill of Rights exists specifically to stop "public debate" from removing rights based on emotional responses.
There may more murders in south Chicago by handguns but what gets people motivated are the Parkland and Sandy Hooks
Yep. Nobody gives a frick about the bill of rights, least of all the population at large. The only thing the BOR has done is force some creative detours that get to the same destination.
Emotions. That's what fuels the average man. Appeal to them, and you can gain political advantage.
Logic is like a giant political boner killer.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:36 pm to Centinel
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No. Public opinion on this subject will be non-existent in the next week or two when the Next Big Thing happens and the media goes apeshit over it.
#Kony2012 #BringOurGirlsBack
That's not true. These kinds of campaigns stick in the minds of voters and impact future voting generations significantly. Hence the steady decline of America.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:36 pm to Centinel
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Thanks for proving my point about the Bill of Rights protecting against emotion-based responses
You are not following very well. I don't need you to lecture me on the BOR. I get it......
My point or observation really is that the more these types of weapons are used the more public opinion will turn......and by the way, I don't think its necessarily an emotional response.....its a logical response on what people perceive to be the problem or at least the common denominator in these problems. So, I think that public opinion may well demand it at some point. Please spare me a lecture on the BOR, we have had assault weapons bans before and you have Trump already willing to consider concessions. So to simply think there isn't a looming problem here is being naive. So if you want another AR/AK platform, I might suggest stocking up.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:41 pm to 14&Counting
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I don't think its necessarily an emotional response.....its a logical response on what people perceive to be the problem or at least the common denominator in these problems.
It is in no way a logical response.
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So, I think that public opinion may well demand it at some point.
They won't.
#Kony2012
All shite-tagging aside, if we were back in the 90s I might agree that another AWB could be possible. But the public attention span is down to a week or two at most.
If Obama couldn't get a gun control bill passed with a supermajority, no one can. Especially with Heller.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:43 pm to stout
You guys are honing in on AR15s as if it would change your opinion if they were talking about weapon classes at large.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:48 pm to Centinel
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It is in no way a logical response.
You just see it through your own myopic vision. It's not wrong to millions of Americans who see it quite differently. You are not wrong and neither are they frankly.
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They won't.
That was then and i am talking about what could be a future outcome. I am not saying in Trumps first term but in future generations when millennial are seniors and running shite?
Also, what do you think of the reciprocity bill that was being touted as a reality just a week or two ago? I would say that is DOA in this climate so its happening.
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