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re: The gimmick of a Christian nation

Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:59 am to
I nominate the OP for The Muddled Thought O The Day Award.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41673 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:01 am to
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How is supporting a pedophile conserving Christian values dumbass?
Christian's aren't "supporting a pedophile". Christians are supporting another professing Christian who has been under attack by people who have had their testimonies discredited or have lacked corroboration. Moore lost his job sticking up for Christian values in the past so he's being given the benefit of the doubt by Christians until credible evidence comes forward that shows Moore has been lying.

Christians can support a repentant murderer, rapist, pedophile, liar, thief, or adulterer (among other sins). Someone who in the past has done terrible things but has turned away from those things and has embraced Christ's forgiveness and sought to live as Christ lived. That's the goal of all Christians. We are all sinners and in need of forgiveness. What is required is true and sorrowful repentance, though, not faked tears following a life of sin.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:01 am to
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The difference between liberals and conservatives is they don't run around thumping the Bible while touting Christian values the way conservatives do.


Lol are you serious? Liberals run around all day virtue signaling and believing they have the moral high ground with things like 'muh trannies' and 'muh illegal immigrants'.

GTFO
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:02 am to
Versus a guy who supports abortions up until the moment of birth. The lecturing about how to be a proper Christian from people who have nothing but contempt for the Christian religion is so tiresome and phony. Then libs wonder why no one buys it as they support candidates with similar or worse transgressions and who want to codify hedonism into law.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:10 am to
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Christian's aren't "supporting a pedophile". Christians are supporting another professing Christian who has been under attack by people who have had their testimonies discredited or have lacked corroboration


Who the hell are you kidding? None of these women have had their testimonies discredited at all. Talk about tales from your arse. Nine different women with nothing to gain and everything to lose, including corroborating stories from others who knew Roy Moore, and you expect me to believe all these women are simply lying for shits and giggles? You people are downright stupid. Stop reading crap like Breitbart and Infowars, which is proven bullshite.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:13 am to
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Versus a guy who supports abortions up until the moment of birth.


I don't support abortions, and certainly not up until the moment of birth dumbass. But I also don't think it should be up to a bunch of old, hypocritical white men in DC to have any say in what a woman does. You conservatives don't give a damn about the sanctity of human life anyway. I can't point to example after example of Republican politicians not giving a damn about human life.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:22 am to
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How much longer will conservatives be able to trick their constituents?

You're confusing conservatives (very few) with Reps (too damn many)
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41673 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:29 am to
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Who the hell are you kidding? None of these women have had their testimonies discredited at all. Talk about tales from your arse. Nine different women with nothing to gain and everything to lose, including corroborating stories from others who knew Roy Moore, and you expect me to believe all these women are simply lying for shits and giggles? You people are downright stupid. Stop reading crap like Breitbart and Infowars, which is proven bull shite.
So far, all we've got are women making statements of stuff that has happened decades ago with no supporting evidence that would hold up in court. The one piece of evidence put forth was a year book that has not been released for review but the digital images of it have been torn apart and analyzed to show evidence of forgery or tampering. One of Moore's most vocal accusers has been a liberal political activist and supporter of Democrats, so her credibility isn't exactly beyond reproach.

Right now you're asking Christians to disown a man who claims to be one of us over simple allegations that anyone can make. I think the whole sexual assault witch hunt is ridiculous for both sides; it's like the red scare and McCarthyism where an accusation is all you need to ruin a person's career and/or reputation. When there is actual evidence of Moore's guilt, we can revisit this conversation.

ETA:
As others have said, we've also got an election between a professing Christian who has allegations (and only allegations so far) of impropriety from decades ago and a man who supports abortion up until birth. So yeah... even if the allegations against Moore are true, it would be the lesser of two evils and most Christians would still probably choose Moore over the baby killer.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:38 am
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:36 am to
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they claim they'd rather vote for an alleged child molester 40 years ago who is conservative than vote for a liberal democrat WHO SUPPORT AND ENGAGE IN SLAUGHTERING OF MILLIONS OF FETUSES.
Seems like a slam dunk decision that DEMONcrats can't comprehend.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:16 pm to
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I don't support abortions, and certainly not up until the moment of birth dumbass.


I’m talking about his opponent, dumbass.

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You conservatives don't give a damn about the sanctity of human life anyway. I can't point to example after example of Republican politicians not giving a damn about human life.


Oh boy, this nitwit logic again. We don’t care about life because we don’t support abortion yet support the death penalty. It’s almost as if we are able to make a distinction between someone who has committed atrocious acts and people who are literally incapable of doing anything wrong. Won’t someone please think of the poor murders and druggies on the street? Or are you going to call changes to federal healthcare law murder? Or equate supporting constitutional rights with not caring for the sanctity of life? Or call not importing MS-13 into your backyard as hate?
Posted by TigerBlazer
Member since Aug 2016
836 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Even if conservative politicians are just nominally Christian, it’s a lot better than voting for progressive politicians who don’t want to conserve Christian values at all.


Right? You can be a pedophile, you cab beat your wife, having sex with men in the bathroom or underage girls - but as long as you wear a cross around your neck and love Jesus - no harm no foul.

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41673 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Right? You can be a pedophile, you cab beat your wife, having sex with men in the bathroom or underage girls - but as long as you wear a cross around your neck and love Jesus - no harm no foul.
If a person has no problem doing those things you described, they are not a real Christian, just someone using God's name in vain. A true Christian repents of those sins.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:16 pm to
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This is a very eloquent way to say what the people in Alabama are saying when they claim they'd rather vote for a child molester who is conservative than vote for a liberal democrat.


That^ is a predictable way for whiny liberal douches to stand against due process while virtue signaling.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:19 pm to
You're confused.
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