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re: The Discussion our Society needs to be having about Domestic Violence

Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:32 pm to
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While we're at it lets just take away women's right to vote.



Now you're talking


Posted by GeauxBlacknGold83
Orlando, FL
Member since Aug 2014
232 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:33 pm to
Vols&Shaft I hope for your sake that you are joking and not truly being serious. If you aren't joking I truly feel sorry for you. I really wish you would take this topic more seriously.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62613 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:36 pm to
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So essentially you don't believe in free will?
Doesn't a man who is abused have free will to press charges? Why are they more susceptible to society's influence than the male artists and female scientists who don't conform?
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
7232 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:43 pm to
I'm a woman and I agree with you. I'd like to have the "don't mistreat your partner-and dont stay with your partner if they mistreat you-period!" discussion.

Men are in a vulnerable position because they aren't often given the same legal protection and because there is the assumption that if he is a victim then its because he didn't "handle" his woman .

Women can be the most vicious and cruel creatures on the planet.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:47 pm to
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And this all goes back to how women manipulate our society.
No.

But when women attempt that, they should suffer the consequences.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:49 pm to
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Pinecone Repair




OCMS


Well, you see two people fighting
Them man and woman, say
You think that it's a crime for them
To carry on that way
Well, you think that you could stop that row
But just as you draw nigh
The lady with the poker
Strikes the gentleman across the eye

Let it alone, let it alone
If it don't concern you, let it alone
They know their business, all right, all right
They practice that-a-way every night
If you go buttin' in, they'll break your chin
So mind your own business and let it alone
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:59 pm to
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I'm a woman and I agree with you. I'd like to have the "don't mistreat your partner-and dont stay with your partner if they mistreat you-period!" discussion.

Men are in a vulnerable position because they aren't often given the same legal protection and because there is the assumption that if he is a victim then its because he didn't "handle" his woman .

Women can be the most vicious and cruel creatures on the planet.


Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:04 pm to
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Women can be the most vicious and cruel creatures on the planet.





Co signed, people with vaginas are the worst.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299596 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:10 pm to
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I agree with you that men need to stop hitting women. Would you also not agree that women need to stop hitting men?


I did a presentation on the rising numbers of women arrested for DV in a sociology class once. I was the only male in that class and it wasn't well received. I got an A though.

Mandatory arrest laws which were meant to protect women made the number of women arrested go up exponentially.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21638 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:13 pm to
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I'm not related to nor do I associate with weak little pussies.


Yeah, you're full of it, too. It takes a strong man to let a woman beat on him without hitting back. There are lots of women out there who are complete entitled bitches from the word go. They beat the ever loving crap out of their man whenever the man displeases them. They slap them, throw stuff at them, curse them, blacken their eyes with balled up fists, and all the while tell them everything wrong with them and beat them down till they're nothing. It happens A LOT.

Men hitting women is wrong and lowdown. He is stronger and can inflict real damage. It is a terrible thing and it must stop. But, anyone who thinks that there are not a good number of women beating the crap out of their men whenever they feel like it, then they are complete morons. It happens way more than it should and men won't report it because of the shame involved.

But, the guy who doesn't hit back is not a "weak little pussy." He is dealing with a tough situation the best way he knows how. I have talked with guys like this before. They usually stay because of the kids and because they can't admit to others that this is happening to them. Very sad.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 8:46 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82366 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:15 pm to
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What do you all think?


If we would all just have a mass conversion to Islam and install Sharia law then the problem would be solved.

Wife abuse would be perfectly acceptable.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21638 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:15 pm to
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I'm a woman and I agree with you. I'd like to have the "don't mistreat your partner-and dont stay with your partner if they mistreat you-period!" discussion. Men are in a vulnerable position because they aren't often given the same legal protection and because there is the assumption that if he is a victim then its because he didn't "handle" his woman . Women can be the most vicious and cruel creatures on the planet.


Yep. You cannot "handle" a woman who is hell-bent on controlling you and everyone else she comes in contact with.

We all know men like this. They are horrible. So, it should not surprise us that there are women out there who are just as bad and just as violent. It is just human nature.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299596 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Yeah, you're full of it, too. It takes a strong man to let a woman beat on him without hitting back.


Agree. There are times to draw the line though
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:24 pm to
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Agree. There are times to draw the line though


Yeah and that line is to break up/divorce
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:30 pm to
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Yeah and that line is to break up/divorce


That's exactly what I did. I stayed in a relationship with a viscous bitch because I was in love. When it got to the point where she was physically abusive, it was time for me to go.

I didn't hit back, I wouldn't hit back, I just left.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299596 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:33 pm to
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Agree. There are times to draw the line though


Yeah and that line is to break up/divorce



If she's got a knife or other weapon coming after you, I wouldn't hold it against a guy for getting violent.

I was in a relationship with a bi-polar lady for a few years and never resorted to violence even though she did hit me on a couple of occasions. Had she pulled a knife though, it would have been different.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:39 pm to
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it goes both ways or are you one of the people who actually believe that only women are victims of domestic violence?
it goes both ways but the impacts are orders-of-magnitude different.

So no, it is NOT the discussion our society needs to be having.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21638 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:43 pm to
I went through that once years ago back in college. She would slap and punch over nothing stuff, whenever she didn't get her way. It was crazy.

After awhile I started protecting myself and started trying to push her off me. I never hit her, but I did push her and grab her when she was wailing on me. It was horrible. I felt horrilbe and like I had done something wrong. If I ever pushed her away or did anything in defense, she'd ridicule me and tell me how worthless I was. I never told a soul.

Finally got out of that. She was a mess.

This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 8:40 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299596 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:47 pm to
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After awhile I started protecting myself and started trying to push her off me. I never hit her, but I did push her and grab her when she was wailing on me. It was horrible. I felt horrilbe and like I had done something wrong. If I ever pushed her away or did anything in defense, she'd ridicule me and tell me how worthless I was. I never told a soul.


I would hold her arms by the wrist if she started getting out of control. She'd eventually come around. We lasted three years, the first 1.5 years she seemed fine but maybe I just chose to ignore it, thinking back.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:54 pm to
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So no, it is NOT the discussion our society needs to be having.


The discussion isn't about men hitting women.

It's about avoiding violence, controlling rage, and knowing when to end a relationship - and both men and women need to hear it.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 8:54 pm
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