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The Deportation of Illegals Begins!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:19 pm
Or maybe not...
Faux DFW
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Many undocumented N. TX kids miss first immigration hearing
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President Obama has said most of the undocumented children in the U.S. from Central America will not be allowed to stay. The process of deciding which ones will stay and which ones will go is often decided in court, but Tuesday, 18 of 20 undocumented children failed to show up to their first immigration hearing in Dallas federal court.
Paul Zoltan, an immigration attorney, does not think that the high number of no-shows is the beginning of a trend. “I think the notion that the children's arrival in violation of our laws means they are scofflaws, that they've simply blown off this hearing because they have no respect for America's laws, I think that's nonsense,” said Zoltan.
The judge could have issued immediate deportation orders as far as Tuesday’s no-shows are concerned, but he chose not to, and reset the hearing for next month.
Faux DFW
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:21 pm to BobABooey
Wanna bet if you look in on this again next month they still won't show? They should lock the attorney up til they do.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:29 pm to BobABooey
Do you mean the continued record deportations under Obama?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:29 pm to BobABooey
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Paul Zoltan, an immigration attorney, does not think that the high number of no-shows is the beginning of a trend
Paul Zoltan is either a fricking retard, or a liar.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:36 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Do you mean the continued record deportations under Obama?
You mean that extremely misleading claim?
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But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.
Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.
On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.
The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:41 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Do you mean the continued record deportations under Obama?
Which has been shown to be a lie on this very forum.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:43 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Do you mean the continued record deportations under Obama?
This smacks of leftists' "record profits" arguments used against companies to exert government control. Profit margin ignored, of course.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:48 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Which has been shown to be a lie on this very forum.
Really, can you link it?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:50 pm to cwill
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:51 pm to Tigah in the ATL
did they change the way deportations are counted? Or is it being counted the same way it has for a few decades prior to Obama?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:54 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:59 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Really, can you link it?
LINK
Those are just raw numbers which fail to account for the collapse of the American economy in 2008 which resulted a sharp decrease in illegal immigration and in fact resulted in a net-negative illegal immigration. Less people to deport. Also more resources were sent to the border which resulted in more border turn-backs resulting in less interior enforcement deportations.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:08 pm to cwill
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Those are just raw numbers which fail to account for the collapse of the American economy in 2008 which resulted a sharp decrease in illegal immigration and in fact resulted in a net-negative illegal immigration. Less people to deport. Also more resources were sent to the border which resulted in more border turn-backs resulting in less interior enforcement deportations.
You're welcome.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:10 pm to cwill
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quote:Which has been shown to be a lie on this very forum. Really, can you link it?
Yeah...three posts above your link request.
In case you can't find it
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:26 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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quote:
Those are just raw numbers which fail to account for the collapse of the American economy in 2008 which resulted a sharp decrease in illegal immigration and in fact resulted in a net-negative illegal immigration. Less people to deport. Also more resources were sent to the border which resulted in more border turn-backs resulting in less interior enforcement deportations.
You're welcome.
The implication was that the lower raw number meant weak enforcement. But, yes, in raw numbers he hasn't deported "record numbers".
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:26 pm to udtiger
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udtiger
Don't really read your posts.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:31 pm to BobABooey
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Many undocumented N. TX kids miss first immigration hearing
WAIT!!!!
You mean to tell me that we told these people to show up on this date to see if they could stay or not and they're not showing up for their hearings?????
I AM SHOCKED!!!11!!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:32 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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did they change the way deportations are counted? Or is it being counted the same way it has for a few decades prior to Obama?
They changed it, of course.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:34 pm to cwill
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Don't really read your posts.
Don't really care. Just responding to your request for proof that the "Obama record deportation" claim is bullshite.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:39 pm to udtiger
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or a liar.
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Paul Zoltan, an immigration attorney
yup
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