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re: The Club for Growth ("and you are not in it") did not invite Trump to their big pow-wow.

Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3071 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:47 am to
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The fix is in.


There is no “fix” in.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25410 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:57 am to
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snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.



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there will be millions either staying home or writing in Trump.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133665 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:41 am to
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if so, it is a stupid plan.


Sure the plan may be stupid. In 2016 the GOP establishment implemented the splitter strategy that was effective in 2008 and 2012. The purpose of the splitter strategy is to have an insurgent out of the mainstream candidate be forced to split votes with lower level primary candidates and allow the "most popular" establishment candidate to win with a small majority (like 30%) in early primary states. Then as the momentum grows into subsequent states the people that would have normally voted for the anti-establishment candidate become unenthusiastic and the establishment candidate coast to the nomination. Yes that strategy was effective in 2008 and 2012 against the anti-establishment candidate Ron Paul.

The GOP establishment attempted the same strategy in 2016 against Donald Trump. Jeb was their man. With a Jeb/Hillary ticket permanent Washington couldn't lose. The uniparty grift would continue under either candidate. But the splitter strategy backfired on the establishment in 2016. Trump after his loss in Iowa just grew stronger and stronger and the establishment were not going to coalesce around Cruz.

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If they want him gone, they need to rally around one candidate from the beginning and forgo the circular firing squad.



That will happen. Most of the candidates will drop out early and throw their support behind Ron very early in the primary process. What will be interesting is if a rogue candidate arises, refuses to get out of the race and tussles with Ron and Don.

Karl Rove and his consulting class, with big donors via Club for Growth and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Rupert Murdoch are rallying around Ron. There will be no splitter strategy this time.

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If the 2016 field had been limited to Trump and Cruz from the beginning, Cruz would’ve been the nominee.


Speculative.

Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:46 am to
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I 100% agree that free people vote Trump


I agree with Boxcar here.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:50 am to
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The Club for Growth ("and you are not in it") did not invite Trump to their big pow-wow.


That's a good thing.

It means they want open borders and unfair trade deals in the name of Globalism.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 3:09 pm to
You know the Club for Growth was aligned with Trump.

I wonder why such a reliably conservative group would turn on hm??? could it be it is clear he is a loser and not very conservative?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Allowing Trump and his money to outlast better (but poorer) candidates was how the GOP got Trump as their nominee in 2016.



Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
2557 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 3:18 pm to
Too much proof the election was stolen not lost. Big difference. If you think a record number of people voted for the imbecile in office now, your living in a fake world.
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